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Old 01-15-2013, 10:05 PM   #196
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Yes. Skelton's awkward, tough and very experienced at the domestic level. He'd by far be Wilder's biggest test to date.
you favor Skelton? If this fight happened, oddsmakers would have it around -1000 Wilder, or 10/1. Do you disagree with that?

We can have an avatar bet. If Wilder fights Skelton or anyone comparable, i.e. ranked around 65 (Estrada, Guinn, ***ton, Skelton, etc.), I'll take Wilder and you can take the other guy.

Deal?
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:10 PM   #197
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you favor Skelton? If this fight happened, oddsmakers would have it -1000 Wilder, or 10/1. Do you disagree with that?

We can have an avatar bet. If Wilder fights Skelton or anyone comparable, i.e. ranked around 65 (Estrada, Guinn, ***ton, Skelton, etc.), I'll take Wilder and you can take the other guy.

Deal?
If the fight happened very few oddsmakers in America would know who Skelton or his opponents were.

But yes, in the completely random instance of it every happening, sure.

Won't bet with you on Wilder beating someone of comparable ranking though. There are many beatable fighters for him in that bracket.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:16 PM   #198
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Seriously hope Fury or Price get a chance to fight him,they'd batter him from pillar to post ... Price probably knocks him out in the first couple of rounds,Fury would punish him for about 4 or 5 then go for the KO.
Did Fury not back down from the Wilder fight? Didn't he also call out the NBC Heavyweight Champion (Jennings) and get told "not yet"?
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:20 PM   #199
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looks like it's now "TBA". Pity, after all the excitement and buildup I was looking forward to the Greer fight.

Maybe Matt Skelton will be a late replacement? We can hope.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:22 PM   #200
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Well, for whatever reason he finds it hard to make fights with bigger names, he needs to set his sights lower and have decent backup opponents in case no deal can be made with the primary. Calling out Jennings or Fury then fighting someone like Greer instead makes him look like a tit. It does very little for his credibility. Fury may have been the one to pull out (personally I don't think either party put anything serious on the table), but he's still managed to get a fight with Kevin Johnson in the interim whilst Wilder is still fighting the bum of the month.

You're right, sparring with Wlad and Haye would do him a world of wonders, but at some point he needs to test his skills out on live opponents in actual competitive fights. Doesn't even need to be someone that great. Mike Mollo or Brian Minto would be decent tests, basically someone who doesn't enter the ring swinging their tits and looking to lie down at the first opportunity.



Wilder's 100% KO ratio is absolutely something his backers are counting on as a future selling point. Don't kid yourself it isn't.
He isn't fighting bigger names, he wants to fight a higher level of journeymen, like your Brit fellows fight now.

That said again, Fury said he was going to fight him then backed out.

Kevin Price is as good as Mollo or Minto, so cut the BS like they are top level journeymen.

Again Wilder isn't marketed based on his KO rate and no one looks at it highly because people know he has been in relatively light, so stop crying about irrelevent shit and stuff that isn't even a real issue except in the recesses of your mind.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:25 PM   #201
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looks like it's now "TBA". Pity, after all the excitement and buildup I was looking forward to the Greer fight.

Maybe Matt Skelton will be a late replacement? We can hope.
Geez, what's with your obsession with Skelton?
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:28 PM   #202
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Again Wilder isn't marketed based on his KO rate and no one looks at it highly because people know he has been in relatively light
Not yet. But do you honestly think it won't be used as a selling point somewhere down the line? What else doe he have?
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Geez, what's with your obsession with Skelton?
I was being tongue in cheek... nothing against Skelton.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:36 PM   #204
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Not yet. But do you honestly think it won't be used as a selling point somewhere down the line? What else doe he have?
Again you are complaining about something that doesn't exist. Try to limit your criticisms to actual things that can be critiqued.

Shit like this is why everyone reading knows you are just a blind hater. You are hating on someone for shit you think is going to happen.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:43 PM   #205
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Again you are complaining about something that doesn't exist. Try to limit your criticisms to actual things that can be critiqued.

Shit like this is why everyone reading knows you are just a blind hater. You are hating on someone for shit you think is going to happen.
Which will happen of course. After all, no one's going to be complimenting him on his silky smooth skills or unparalleled ability to take a punch, now are they?

It's all about that right hand, man.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:49 PM   #206
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Which will happen of course. After all, no one's going to be complimenting him on his silky smooth skills or unparalleled ability to take a punch, now are they?

It's all about that right hand, man.
So you have a gripe with the future marketing department at HBO?

won't he have to KO some genuinely good fighters before he gets a meaningful fight while retaining his KO record?

Will Sky Sports (or whoever) be marketing David Price's 86% KO record -- and if not, why not?
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:42 AM   #207
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Greer is a stay busy fight
So what were the other fights?

Staying busy for what?
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:11 AM   #208
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Serious thought - Prizefighter Heavyweights is on Feb 23rd with Audley and Rogan. At this point it would be a step up for Wilder and a way to get more exposure. Don't know who else is taking part though...

Eddie do the business!
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:27 AM   #209
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Did Fury not back down from the Wilder fight? Didn't he also call out the NBC Heavyweight Champion (Jennings) and get told "not yet"?
that would be true. not sure why those guys turned him down but they did
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:25 PM   #210
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Did Fury not back down from the Wilder fight? Didn't he also call out the NBC Heavyweight Champion (Jennings) and get told "not yet"?
Fury ignored Wilder and told him to get himself a proper ranking,Wilder was ranked 70th or something stupid at the time?Just 5 days ago Fury said he wants Jennings or Wilder ... It was Wilder that went for Jennings with some bullshit and when Jennings agreed to fight him,Wilder suddenly took back his offer.
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