If JMM is such a "Warrior", why hasn't he called out Mayweather for a rematch?

Dunks · 01-16-2013, 12:48 PM

JMM got humiliated by Mayweather in 2009, he said he wasnt adjusted to the weight (after the fight of course), before the fight him & Nacho were saying they would knock out Floyd and that they felt strong. If Marquez is the true warrior and competitor that he is then why hasn't he been vocal about another Mayweather fight? If Nacho is this great trainer then why is he unable to give the intelligent JMM a game plan that could work vs Mayweather? It seems to me that JMM is getting a pass for not challenging Mayweather. Prior to the 4th JMM-PAC fight, JMM has went on record repeatedly and said he felt like he won the first 3 fights, then he fights him for a 4th time and he knocks him out cold. In JMM's mind, he has already beat Pac 4 times so why are people co-signing his efforts to fight a guy that he feels he already defeated 4 times? Shouldnt he be trying to get revenge against Floyd?

It appears that even the GREAT JMM & GREAT Nacho have conceded that no matter the weight, no matter the amount of power and not even the most well thought out game plan from the 2 of them will ever allow them to defeat or even do better against Mayweather a 2nd time........warrior?

Also a fight vs Mayweather would be JMM's biggest Payday ever, especially coming off the Pac KO.

boxsensei · 01-16-2013, 12:53 PM

JMM is a warrior but everyone knows that there's no point in a rematch. Mayweather is a league abouve pacquiao and he'd win another wide UD

Zopilote · 01-16-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by boxsensei

JMM is a warrior but everyone knows that there's no point in a rematch. Mayweather is a league abouve pacquiao and he'd win another wide UD

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Dunks · 01-16-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by boxsensei

JMM is a warrior but everyone knows that there's no point in a rematch. Mayweather is a league abouve pacquiao and he'd win another wide UD

I agree but at the same time JMM has had more fights at WW than Guerrero and he is better than Guerrero. JMM just knocked out Pac, we dont knoe what Mayweather looks like at this stage, whos to say that JMM couldnt win at least 1 round the next time.

Also he should get no credit for fighting Pac a 5th time. Its comical that Pac is this monster and JMM wants to fight him 5 times but he wont even getin the ring with the feather fisted runner Mayweather a 2nd time.

Withwhatsmine · 01-16-2013, 12:57 PM

I was hoping he would try for a Mayweather, Bradley or Judah fjght. But I think Arum has promised them a 15 million or higher payday, I guess he could fight Mayweather for ten million but yeah he knows he will problably lose.

Dunks · 01-16-2013, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zopilote

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did you think a 39 year old JMM would totally knock out Pac and have him on the floor for 10 minutes? NO you didnt,....how do you know how JMM will perform against Mayweather? Do Nacho and JMM not have high boxing IQ's? You are telling me that they couldnt devise a plan that could win them at least 1,2 or 3 rounds?

Ahurath · 01-16-2013, 12:59 PM

I don't know what you are trying to pull here?
Ofc he is a warrior that is seen in the battles he fought and the fact you can't count him out even if you got him hurt.

But another rematch is just plain stupid. He was knocked down, lost 12 rounds of 12 and got a boxing lesson. There isn't a point in a rematch.

Dunks · 01-16-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Withwhatsmine

I was hoping he would try for a Mayweather, Bradley or Judah fjght. But I think Arum has promised them a 15 million or higher payday, I guess he could fight Mayweather for ten million but yeah he knows he will problably lose.

Cotto just got $15 million, JMM would make that or higher vs Mayweather, on cinco de mayo. Arum hasnt even promised Pac $15 million, how can he promise JMM that?

Zopilote · 01-16-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunks

I agree but at the same time JMM has had more fights at WW than Guerrero and he is better than Guerrero. JMM just knocked out Pac, we dont knoe what Mayweather looks like at this stage, whos to say that JMM couldnt win at least 1 round the next time.

Also he should get no credit for fighting Pac a 5th time. Its comical that Pac is this monster and JMM wants to fight him 5 times but he wont even getin the ring with the feather fisted runner Mayweather a 2nd time.

Umm when has JMM said he wanted a 5th Pacquiao fight??

If anything, its Arum and team Pac that want it, JMM hasn't said a word about it, genius.

lbarrow · 01-16-2013, 01:01 PM

He is a warrior for sure. Maybe he doesnt wanna get into a borin fight and get one twos that dont hurt him all night. He wants proper fights at light and light welterweight

Zopilote · 01-16-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunks

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did you think a 39 year old JMM would totally knock out Pac and have him on the floor for 10 minutes? NO you didnt,....how do you know how JMM will perform against Mayweather? Do Nacho and JMM not have high boxing IQ's? You are telling me that they couldnt devise a plan that could win them at least 1,2 or 3 rounds?

Whats the point of going into a fight with a gameplan that could win them 1, 2 or 3 rounds when you need at least 7 rounds to win?

Dunks · 01-16-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ahurath

I don't know what you are trying to pull here?
Ofc he is a warrior that is seen in the battles he fought and the fact you can't count him out even if you got him hurt.

But another rematch is just plain stupid. He was knocked down, lost 12 rounds of 12 and got a boxing lesson. There isn't a point in a rematch.

Yes there is a point in the rematch, to see if another great from this era can actually adjust and do better against another great of this era. This fight is more meaningful than Floyd-Guerrero or Floyd-Canelo

Dunks · 01-16-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zopilote

Whats the point of going into a fight with a gameplan that could win them 1, 2 or 3 rounds when you need at least 7 rounds to win?

Because you dont know how the game plan will be implemented until the fight. Its obvious the strategy they had last time didnt work, I would love to see how JMM and Nacho could adjust in the next match.

BobDigi5060 · 01-16-2013, 01:04 PM

Maybe he doesn't want it? I don't know, Mayweather has other business too that's being put out there.

But, most importantly, the public is not calling for it.

Zopilote · 01-16-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunks

Yes there is a point in the rematch, to see if another great from this era can actually adjust and do better against another great of this era. This fight is more meaningful than Floyd-Guerrero or Floyd-Canelo

Had the fight itself been remotley competitive, then you would have a point, have you seen the fight?

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Dunks Absolute Grandmaster ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nirvana Posts: 3,349 vCash: 1000	If JMM is such a "Warrior", why hasn't he called out Mayweather for a rematch? JMM got humiliated by Mayweather in 2009, he said he wasnt adjusted to the weight (after the fight of course), before the fight him & Nacho were saying they would knock out Floyd and that they felt strong. If Marquez is the true warrior and competitor that he is then why hasn't he been vocal about another Mayweather fight? If Nacho is this great trainer then why is he unable to give the intelligent JMM a game plan that could work vs Mayweather? It seems to me that JMM is getting a pass for not challenging Mayweather. Prior to the 4th JMM-PAC fight, JMM has went on record repeatedly and said he felt like he won the first 3 fights, then he fights him for a 4th time and he knocks him out cold. In JMM's mind, he has already beat Pac 4 times so why are people co-signing his efforts to fight a guy that he feels he already defeated 4 times? Shouldnt he be trying to get revenge against Floyd? It appears that even the GREAT JMM & GREAT Nacho have conceded that no matter the weight, no matter the amount of power and not even the most well thought out game plan from the 2 of them will ever allow them to defeat or even do better against Mayweather a 2nd time........warrior? Also a fight vs Mayweather would be JMM's biggest Payday ever, especially coming off the Pac KO.
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boxsensei Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: H-Town Posts: 3,616 vCash: 1408	Re: If JMM is such a "Warrior", why hasn't he called out Mayweather for a rematch? JMM is a warrior but everyone knows that there's no point in a rematch. Mayweather is a league abouve pacquiao and he'd win another wide UD
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Withwhatsmine Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,808 vCash: 75	Re: If JMM is such a "Warrior", why hasn't he called out Mayweather for a rematch? I was hoping he would try for a Mayweather, Bradley or Judah fjght. But I think Arum has promised them a 15 million or higher payday, I guess he could fight Mayweather for ten million but yeah he knows he will problably lose.
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Ahurath Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,211 vCash: 235	Re: If JMM is such a "Warrior", why hasn't he called out Mayweather for a rematch? I don't know what you are trying to pull here? Ofc he is a warrior that is seen in the battles he fought and the fact you can't count him out even if you got him hurt. But another rematch is just plain stupid. He was knocked down, lost 12 rounds of 12 and got a boxing lesson. There isn't a point in a rematch.
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lbarrow Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 581 vCash: 1000	Re: If JMM is such a "Warrior", why hasn't he called out Mayweather for a rematch? He is a warrior for sure. Maybe he doesnt wanna get into a borin fight and get one twos that dont hurt him all night. He wants proper fights at light and light welterweight
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BobDigi5060 East Side MMA East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: TX Posts: 8,959 vCash: 553	Re: If JMM is such a "Warrior", why hasn't he called out Mayweather for a rematch? Maybe he doesn't want it? I don't know, Mayweather has other business too that's being put out there. But, most importantly, the public is not calling for it.
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