If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo

larryx2012 · 01-16-2013, 02:12 PM

He will be 45-0 and a 9 time champion(should be 10) in 5 divisions and a 4 time linela champion(cause the canelo fight would be for the ring/lineal title)
he'd have wins over

Shane
Oscar
Corrales
Castillo
Ortiz
Marquez
Hatton
Gatti
Cotto
Canelo
Guerrero
Hernendez
Judah

If he pulls this off and retires and stays retired he would have to go down as a top 10-15 all time great and thats being objective,sorry no way around it..name me another fighter who would be 45-0 9 times champion and a 4 time lineal champion..that is unheard of

MVC · 01-16-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by larryx2012

He will be 45-0 and a 9 time champion(should be 10) in 5 divisions and a 4 time linela champion(cause the canelo fight would be for the ring/lineal title)
he'd have wins over

Shane
Oscar
Corrales
Castillo
Marquez
Hatton
Gatti
Cotto
Canelo
Guerrero
Hernendez
Judah

If he pulls this off and retires and stays retired he would have to go down as a top 10-15 all time great and thats being objective,sorry no way around it..name me another fighter who would be 45-0 9 times champion and a 4 time lineal champion..that is unheard of

Yup 10-15 definitely is where he belongs if he beats Guerrero/Canelo (A beast at 154)

Haters gon hate.

PBF for life.

PrinceN · 01-16-2013, 02:14 PM

A lot of hall of famers on that list

Withwhatsmine · 01-16-2013, 02:15 PM

Ten to fifteen sounds fair I'm not even a Floyd fan but people who hate on him are morons

Bogotazo · 01-16-2013, 02:16 PM

10-15? No. Obviously not, anyone that doesn't have Floyd's dick in their mouth will tell you the likes of Guerrero and Canelo don't suddenly make you hang with SRL.

MVC · 01-16-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogotazo

10-15? No. Obviously not, anyone that doesn't have Floyd's dick in their mouth will tell you the likes of Guerrero and Canelo don't suddenly make you hang with SRL.

SRL had multiple losses although some ATG quality wins

Was never a 9 time world champion, 4 time lineal champion. Undefeated. Greatest Punchstat record for a fighter.

SRL ranks ahead but Floyd deserves 10-15.

SRL 11, Floyd 14

Bogotazo · 01-16-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MVC

SRL had multiple losses although some ATG quality wins

Was never a 9 time world champion, 4 time lineal champion. Undefeated. Greatest Punchstat record for a fighter.

Who you beat is what matters. SRL beat better fighters. So did a bunch of ATG's.

Bazooka · 01-16-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by larryx2012

He will be 45-0 and a 9 time champion(should be 10) in 5 divisions and a 4 time linela champion(cause the canelo fight would be for the ring/lineal title)
he'd have wins over

Lineal cus Canelo took the title from the most feared Jr Middleweight Matthew Hatton

richie leon · 01-16-2013, 02:19 PM

Gotta take into account his longevity too. Other fighters have won world championship fights 15 or even more years apart. No fighter has EVER done it without sustaining a single blemish on his record, and off the top of my head, no fighter has EVER stayed undefeated over a 17-year stretch in total.

Still not so sure about top-15 ATG though... that's a lot of great fighters you have to top...

Bazooka · 01-16-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Withwhatsmine

Ten to fifteen sounds fair I'm not even a Floyd fan but people who hate on him are morons

Yes you are, just because your original user name was suspended and you have no created an alt that doesnt mean we cant see right through you

MVC · 01-16-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogotazo

Who you beat is what matters. SRL beat better fighters. So did a bunch of ATG's.

But he's had his fair share of losses.

Floyd beat ATGS/HOFS his whole career. 20+ world title fights, and just can't lose.

17 year stretch undefeated

Beat all his contemporaries besides Pacquiao because Pacquiao ducked the SHIT out of him.

I TuCKeR 93 I · 01-16-2013, 02:22 PM

A great record what could of been better.

richie leon · 01-16-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bazooka

Lineal cus Canelo took the title from the most feared Jr Middleweight Matthew Hatton

Well the thing is there are no official rules regarding title lineage.
In the case of the 154-pounders, Winky Wright was undiputed champ and left the division without losing that status in the ring, and no fighter since then has definitively estasblished himself as the man at that weight since then..

Wouldn't Mayweather-Canelo be a good fight to re-establish the lineage? Although that only goes as long as one of them beats Trout first, i admit.

duranimal · 01-16-2013, 02:26 PM

He ducked the biggest fight out there against a midgit

He ducked a DLH re-match

He'll not go down as a legend, far to many *****

He's a fine technician, But?????...see above.

Bogotazo · 01-16-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MVC

But he's had his fair share of losses.

Floyd beat ATGS/HOFS his whole career. 20+ world title fights, and just can't lose.

17 year stretch undefeated

Beat all his contemporaries besides Pacquiao because Pacquiao ducked the SHIT out of him.

Never beat anyone as good as Duran, Hearns, Benitez, or Hagler. So it's irrational to rank him higher.

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larryx2012 EastSide Boss East Side Guru Join Date: May 2012 Location: in a parallel universe Posts: 5,344 vCash: 466602	If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo He will be 45-0 and a 9 time champion(should be 10) in 5 divisions and a 4 time linela champion(cause the canelo fight would be for the ring/lineal title) he'd have wins over Shane Oscar Corrales Castillo Ortiz Marquez Hatton Gatti Cotto Canelo Guerrero Hernendez Judah If he pulls this off and retires and stays retired he would have to go down as a top 10-15 all time great and thats being objective,sorry no way around it..name me another fighter who would be 45-0 9 times champion and a 4 time lineal champion..that is unheard of
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PrinceN Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,296 vCash: 500	Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo A lot of hall of famers on that list
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Bogotazo Amateur East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New York Posts: 17,519 vCash: 294	Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo 10-15? No. Obviously not, anyone that doesn't have Floyd's dick in their mouth will tell you the likes of Guerrero and Canelo don't suddenly make you hang with SRL.
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richie leon Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,456 vCash: 1000	Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo Gotta take into account his longevity too. Other fighters have won world championship fights 15 or even more years apart. No fighter has EVER done it without sustaining a single blemish on his record, and off the top of my head, no fighter has EVER stayed undefeated over a 17-year stretch in total. Still not so sure about top-15 ATG though... that's a lot of great fighters you have to top...
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I TuCKeR 93 I Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,071 vCash: 532	Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo A great record what could of been better.
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duranimal Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bournemouth, England Posts: 4,458 vCash: 1000	Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo He ducked the biggest fight out there against a midgit He ducked a DLH re-match He'll not go down as a legend, far to many ***** He's a fine technician, But?????...see above.
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