If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo

[Withwhatsmine]

Originally Posted by Concrete

Mayweather didn't fight for legacy so its fine for ppl to be critical of it.

I've said if Pacquiao and Mayweather fought like Judah they wouldn't have the same records they have now, but Pacquiao fans claim he never ducked and than love to shit on Floyd, so it's not legit criticism.

[iceman71]

maybe 30

[Concrete]

Originally Posted by Withwhatsmine

I've said if Pacquiao and Mayweather fought like Judah they wouldn't have the same records they have now, but Pacquiao fans claim he never ducked and than love to shit on Floyd, so it's not legit criticism.

Im not talking about Pacquiao fan type crictism.

[nastynas]

Originally Posted by Concrete

Mayweather didn't fight for legacy so its fine for ppl to be critical of it.

neither did Sugar Ray Robinson...or pretty much all fighters actually.

[Richel Hersisia]

Originally Posted by Withwhatsmine

I've said if Pacquiao and Mayweather fought like Judah they wouldn't have the same records they have now, but Pacquiao fans claim he never ducked and than love to shit on Floyd, so it's not legit criticism.

how do you know what people are pacquiao fans?

[Gander Tasco]

Originally Posted by larryx2012

He will be 45-0 and a 9 time champion(should be 10) in 5 divisions and a 4 time linela champion(cause the canelo fight would be for the ring/lineal title)
he'd have wins over

Shane <-- good win on paper but shane was shot
Oscar <-- decent win
Corrales <-- good win
Castillo <-- good win, though he lost the first time
Ortiz <-- b-level / nobody
Marquez <-- joke fight
Hatton <-- good win
Gatti <-- shot / meaningless
Cotto <-- decent win / came way too late when Floyd should have fought him years prior
Canelo <-- unproven fighter / nobody
Guerrero <-- b-level / nobody
Hernendez <-- good win
Judah <-- b-level / meaningless

If he pulls this off and retires and stays retired he would have to go down as a top 10-15 all time great and thats being objective,sorry no way around it..name me another fighter who would be 45-0 9 times champion and a 4 time lineal champion..that is unheard of

And how many of these are impressive wins?



edit : nm I took care of it for you

[Withwhatsmine]

Originally Posted by Richel Hersisia

how do you know what people are pacquiao fans?

If someone says Floyd ducked Pacquiao, I'll ask was Pacquiao in any way at fault, if they say no I'll ask did Pacquiao ever duck anyone, if they say no you have a Pactard because he clearly did especially the last 5 years.

[Concrete]

Originally Posted by nastynas

neither did Sugar Ray Robinson...or pretty much all fighters actually.

That just means that they are all cappalbe of being crictizied one way or another. Just matters the type of criticism. If you say Mayweather could have a better resume then that is legit crictism. Or that Mayweather doesn't have a prime ATG on his resume that would be legit crictism. Now if you try and make it ALL Mayweather's fault for not having those things then thats when you are start heading towards the biased, double standard area.

[bballchump11]

Originally Posted by Gander Tasco

And how many of these are impressive wins?

the Marquez one is looking better and better

[JMP]

...10-15? Don't be stupid. Actually, just shut the fuck up.

[Gander Tasco]

Originally Posted by bballchump11

the Marquez one is looking better and better

mm no . Floyd dragged him up two weight divisions and ducked the catchweight . He gets no credit for that. He had no business fighting him anyway, when he was an established WW and there were plenty of good fights available.

[Withwhatsmine]

Originally Posted by Gander Tasco

mm no . Floyd dragged him up two weight divisions and ducked the catchweight . He gets no credit for that. He had no business fighting him anyway, when he was an established WW and there were plenty of good fights available.

Does Marquez get credit for the knockout or are you saying steroids? It doesn't count just pathetic.

[AZ_40]

top 15

[bjl12]

If he defeats both Ghost and Saul, Floyd will indeed wind up among the 15 best boxers to ever put on a pair of gloves.
Assuming he finishes 45-0 (and hopefully doesn't come out of retirement):
It should be noted that not only has Floyd won 45 fights, but he dominated the majority of his fights. Dominated. He's unquestionably a master of the craft and is a living, walking, talking example of the sweet science in action.

Top 15 ATG lock.

[Doc]

No but if he beats canelo then Martinez @ 160 I'd rate him top 30 easy.