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Old 01-16-2013, 04:07 PM   #46
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Mayweather didn't fight for legacy so its fine for ppl to be critical of it.
neither did Sugar Ray Robinson...or pretty much all fighters actually.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:08 PM   #47
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I've said if Pacquiao and Mayweather fought like Judah they wouldn't have the same records they have now, but Pacquiao fans claim he never ducked and than love to shit on Floyd, so it's not legit criticism.
how do you know what people are pacquiao fans?
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:10 PM   #48
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He will be 45-0 and a 9 time champion(should be 10) in 5 divisions and a 4 time linela champion(cause the canelo fight would be for the ring/lineal title)
he'd have wins over

Shane <-- good win on paper but shane was shot
Oscar <-- decent win
Corrales <-- good win
Castillo <-- good win, though he lost the first time
Ortiz <-- b-level / nobody
Marquez <-- joke fight
Hatton <-- good win
Gatti <-- shot / meaningless
Cotto <-- decent win / came way too late when Floyd should have fought him years prior
Canelo <-- unproven fighter / nobody
Guerrero <-- b-level / nobody
Hernendez <-- good win
Judah <-- b-level / meaningless


If he pulls this off and retires and stays retired he would have to go down as a top 10-15 all time great and thats being objective,sorry no way around it..name me another fighter who would be 45-0 9 times champion and a 4 time lineal champion..that is unheard of
And how many of these are impressive wins?



edit : nm I took care of it for you

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Old 01-16-2013, 04:13 PM   #49
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how do you know what people are pacquiao fans?
If someone says Floyd ducked Pacquiao, I'll ask was Pacquiao in any way at fault, if they say no I'll ask did Pacquiao ever duck anyone, if they say no you have a Pactard because he clearly did especially the last 5 years.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:13 PM   #50
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neither did Sugar Ray Robinson...or pretty much all fighters actually.
That just means that they are all cappalbe of being crictizied one way or another. Just matters the type of criticism. If you say Mayweather could have a better resume then that is legit crictism. Or that Mayweather doesn't have a prime ATG on his resume that would be legit crictism. Now if you try and make it ALL Mayweather's fault for not having those things then thats when you are start heading towards the biased, double standard area.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:14 PM   #51
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And how many of these are impressive wins?
the Marquez one is looking better and better
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:16 PM   #52
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...10-15? Don't be stupid. Actually, just shut the **** up.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:24 PM   #53
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the Marquez one is looking better and better

mm no . Floyd dragged him up two weight divisions and ducked the catchweight . He gets no credit for that. He had no business fighting him anyway, when he was an established WW and there were plenty of good fights available.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:26 PM   #54
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mm no . Floyd dragged him up two weight divisions and ducked the catchweight . He gets no credit for that. He had no business fighting him anyway, when he was an established WW and there were plenty of good fights available.
Does Marquez get credit for the knockout or are you saying steroids? It doesn't count just pathetic.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:27 PM   #55
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top 15
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:28 PM   #56
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If he defeats both Ghost and Saul, Floyd will indeed wind up among the 15 best boxers to ever put on a pair of gloves.
Assuming he finishes 45-0 (and hopefully doesn't come out of retirement):
It should be noted that not only has Floyd won 45 fights, but he dominated the majority of his fights. Dominated. He's unquestionably a master of the craft and is a living, walking, talking example of the sweet science in action.

Top 15 ATG lock.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:32 PM   #57
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No but if he beats canelo then Martinez @ 160 I'd rate him top 30 easy.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:35 PM   #58
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the Marquez one is looking better and better
Yes making a lightweight go to 143 then not honoring it and coming in at 147 is the stuff of legends. Gtfo here. Bs win to pad his record, I'd love to see may fight Marquez again at 147 to make it a legit win.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:35 PM   #59
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If he defeats both Ghost and Saul, Floyd will indeed wind up among the 15 best boxers to ever put on a pair of gloves.
Assuming he finishes 45-0 (and hopefully doesn't come out of retirement):
It should be noted that not only has Floyd won 45 fights, but he dominated the majority of his fights. Dominated. He's unquestionably a master of the craft and is a living, walking, talking example of the sweet science in action.

Top 15 ATG lock.
You are truly retarded. Who has he beaten to deserve to be in the top 15? Name them. Longevity / undefeated is good, but not when you've taken multiple retirements / vacations and only fight once a year. Not to mention avoiding tough threats along the way.
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mm no . Floyd dragged him up two weight divisions and ducked the catchweight . He gets no credit for that. He had no business fighting him anyway, when he was an established WW and there were plenty of good fights available.
JMM was #2 PFP at the time of their fight. Considering JMM and Pac are the exact same size, what difference does it make?

If fighting Pac is okay but JMM isn't (due to size differences) then you have some serious figuring out to do, as the two are the exact same size.

***I'm only stating that if you believe the JMM fight was a bad fight BUT Pac fight would've been acceptable, then you're a moron. I'm not saying the size difference didn't matter. Although clearly Floyd beats JMM at a neutral weight also. Styles make fights pacturds, not steroids or filipino buboys***
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