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Old 01-16-2013, 04:35 PM   #61
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the Marquez one is looking better and better
Yes making a lightweight go to 143 then not honoring it and coming in at 147 is the stuff of legends. Gtfo here. Bs win to pad his record, I'd love to see may fight Marquez again at 147 to make it a legit win.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:35 PM   #62
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If he defeats both Ghost and Saul, Floyd will indeed wind up among the 15 best boxers to ever put on a pair of gloves.
Assuming he finishes 45-0 (and hopefully doesn't come out of retirement):
It should be noted that not only has Floyd won 45 fights, but he dominated the majority of his fights. Dominated. He's unquestionably a master of the craft and is a living, walking, talking example of the sweet science in action.

Top 15 ATG lock.
You are truly retarded. Who has he beaten to deserve to be in the top 15? Name them. Longevity / undefeated is good, but not when you've taken multiple retirements / vacations and only fight once a year. Not to mention avoiding tough threats along the way.
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mm no . Floyd dragged him up two weight divisions and ducked the catchweight . He gets no credit for that. He had no business fighting him anyway, when he was an established WW and there were plenty of good fights available.
JMM was #2 PFP at the time of their fight. Considering JMM and Pac are the exact same size, what difference does it make?

If fighting Pac is okay but JMM isn't (due to size differences) then you have some serious figuring out to do, as the two are the exact same size.

***I'm only stating that if you believe the JMM fight was a bad fight BUT Pac fight would've been acceptable, then you're a moron. I'm not saying the size difference didn't matter. Although clearly Floyd beats JMM at a neutral weight also. Styles make fights pacturds, not steroids or filipino buboys***
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That's like after Ortiz Martinez and may agree @ 156 catch then the pussy Martinez comes in at 160 against a WW like really? That's some bs gets no credit.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:37 PM   #65
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Lineal cus Canelo took the title from the most feared Jr Middleweight Matthew Hatton
just like the lineal champion baldonir who beat Judah..
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That's like after Ortiz Martinez and may agree @ 156 catch then the pussy Martinez comes in at 160 against a WW like really? That's some bs gets no credit.
2 Pounds don't make that big of a difference. Sorry.

Catchweight was @ 144. Floyd weighed 146. 2 Pounds do not, in any way, change the outcome of that fight.

Butthurt pacturds are really reaching nowadays

Guess what? Floyd's a megastar, ATG. Pacturds... are sleeping. And will be lucky to finish top 150 ATG. LUCKY
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:39 PM   #67
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just like the lineal champion baldonir who beat Judah..
Your a fucking dumb ass, that title was vacant
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:40 PM   #68
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2 Pounds don't make that big of a difference. Sorry.

Catchweight was @ 144. Floyd weighed 146. 2 Pounds do not, in any way, change the outcome of that fight.

Butthurt pacturds are really reaching nowadays

Guess what? Floyd's a megastar, ATG. Pacturds... are sleeping. And will be lucky to finish top 150 ATG. LUCKY
Then why the fuck are all you flomos on about the two pounds Cotto took off to face Manny if they do not make a difference?
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:42 PM   #69
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Yes making a lightweight go to 143 then not honoring it and coming in at 147 is the stuff of legends. Gtfo here. Bs win to pad his record, I'd love to see may fight Marquez again at 147 to make it a legit win.
you've gone psycho over the past few weeks

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mm no . Floyd dragged him up two weight divisions and ducked the catchweight . He gets no credit for that. He had no business fighting him anyway, when he was an established WW and there were plenty of good fights available.
you've always been psycho
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Mayweather didn't fight for legacy so its fine for ppl to be critical of it.
how is being a 8 time champion in 5 divisions and a 3 time lineal champ not fighting for legacy..he beat the #1 guy in every divisions he went to except 140 when hatton was the champ and did not want to fight him so he beat up the #1 contender gatti
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mm no . Floyd dragged him up two weight divisions and ducked the catchweight . He gets no credit for that. He had no business fighting him anyway, when he was an established WW and there were plenty of good fights available.
Was Manny not an established ww and fought him 2 times at ww?
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:45 PM   #72
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If someone says Floyd ducked Pacquiao, I'll ask was Pacquiao in any way at fault, if they say no I'll ask did Pacquiao ever duck anyone, if they say no you have a Pactard because he clearly did especially the last 5 years.
ok.. I think both didn't really wanted the fight as they were making so god damn matching fighting easier opponents.. And both have been very dissapointing to me in their matchmaking Pac since the DLH fight and Floyd since Castillo II really I rank pac around 50 and floyd around 40 now.. While i do think Pac has the best win of the 2 ( Barrera 1 )

I think Floyd is way more gifted and could ve been a lot higher if he took on more challengers. Especially Zoo, Cotto in 08 and Martinez now.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:49 PM   #73
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Top 20-25 ATG.
That's it around guys like Arguello and Sanchez but bellow guys like SRL and Duran
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Then why the fuck are all you flomos on about the two pounds Cotto took off to face Manny if they do not make a difference?
The weight wasn't much of an issue. The time he fought Cotto was very... "convenient". He was plastered by margacheato and then given a gift decision vs clottey. cotto was ready to lose to anyone at that point.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:53 PM   #75
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Was Manny not an established ww and fought him 2 times at ww?
The rules for judging manny and Floyd are very different, in case you didn't know jackass.

manny can do what he wants, fight who he wants, and reap the benefits, whether he wins, loses, or gets KTFO6.

Floyd is either always dodging, cherry picking, or beating women. The only time he can legitimately earn credit is when he fights lineal champions at least two weight classes above. Anything else is bitch status

Get with the program, Larry
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