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Old 01-16-2013, 06:31 PM   #226
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It was Wilder that went for Jennings with some bullshit and when Jennings agreed to fight him,Wilder suddenly took back his offer.
Wow.

You know, with your amazing ability to simply pull stuff out of your ass, you should apply for a job with FOX news.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:41 PM   #227
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Supposedly Jennings and Wilder was negotiated but GBP said the money was too low for wilder to the point that it wasn't a real offer. When GBP countered Main Events walked.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:44 PM   #228
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Wow.

You know, with your amazing ability to simply pull stuff out of your ass, you should apply for a job with FOX news.
Read it elsewhere,maybe true,maybe not .. you're right though,I know about as much as Wilder as you do Fury.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:45 PM   #229
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Supposedly Jennings and Wilder was negotiated but GBP said the money was too low for wilder to the point that it wasn't a real offer. When GBP countered Main Events walked.
Then you have the interview I posted a page back with Jennings basically saying he doesn't know who the fuck Wilder is,he's nothing to him etc .. Wilder needs Jennings more than he needs Wilder .. swings and roundabouts.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:47 PM   #230
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Actually, Wilder only had 32 amateur fights, FWIW.

32 whole fights, and he won the Golden Globes, made the Olympic team, & won a bronze medal.

He was KD'd by Harold Sconiers, who was basically a cab driver, but that was Wilder's 13th pro fight, and his 45th fight EVER. Yeah, he made a mistake. Then he got up & KO'd Sconiers in the 4th.

He's fought mostly bums, but he's had lousy management, he's too dangerous for most fighters to agree to fight him, and he needs to fight constantly to pay for his daughters huge medical bills.

Give the guy a fucking break already.

HOLY FUCK he's the only one in the history of boxing to win the Golden Globes lol. He's already transcended into the mainstream lol
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:50 PM   #231
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Then you have the interview I posted a page back with Jennings basically saying he doesn't know who the fuck Wilder is,he's nothing to him etc .. Wilder needs Jennings more than he needs Wilder .. swings and roundabouts.
Wilder is doing it the right way. Better to slowly refine his craft and stay active than be rushed too quickly.

I doubt the Jennings makes significantly more money than Wilder as well.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:55 PM   #232
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Then you have the interview I posted a page back with Jennings basically saying he doesn't know who the fuck Wilder is,he's nothing to him etc .. Wilder needs Jennings more than he needs Wilder .. swings and roundabouts.
True, Jennings is the top US prospect IMO.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:11 PM   #233
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Read it elsewhere,maybe true,maybe not .. you're right though,I know about as much as Wilder as you do Fury.
Hmmm. Regarding the Steward-Fury split, you wrote, quote: "I think the option was there for Fury to continue his training with Manny,but decided against it for his own personal reasons etc,"

you THINK, or you KNOW? If you know more than me about Fury, then you should be able to state this as a fact, and also state the specific reasons Fury "had."

What I know is that no one CHOOSES to leave Manny Steward in order to be trained by his uncle & father. Manny most likely saw all of Fury's incurable weaknesses, and decided to put his valuable time elsewhere. (And yes, that's also an opinion, but it makes a lot more sense.)


But OK, I appreciate your honesty here. Moving forward ......

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Old 01-16-2013, 07:23 PM   #234
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Read it elsewhere,maybe true,maybe not .. you're right though,I know about as much as Wilder as you do Fury.
Well if you know fuck all about Wilder why shoot you're mouth of and act like you do? We just end up going around in circles with this debate, no doubt a carbon copy thread of this will emerge again within a few days or a week with the same rubbish in it from the same users.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:31 AM   #235
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Hmmm. Regarding the Steward-Fury split, you wrote, quote: "I think the option was there for Fury to continue his training with Manny,but decided against it for his own personal reasons etc,"

you THINK, or you KNOW? If you know more than me about Fury, then you should be able to state this as a fact, and also state the specific reasons Fury "had."

What I know is that no one CHOOSES to leave Manny Steward in order to be trained by his uncle & father. Manny most likely saw all of Fury's incurable weaknesses, and decided to put his valuable time elsewhere. (And yes, that's also an opinion, but it makes a lot more sense.)


But OK, I appreciate your honesty here. Moving forward ......
It's been posted a few times in the past,by me and other fans of Fury,he was in a shitty place at the time mentally,thought it would benefit him more training at home .. his old man was in trouble with the law for gouging someones eye out etc before finally being jailed early in 2011 which sent him even further over the edge,his depression stayed with him pretty much throughout the entirety of 2011 .. his son was seriously ill etc Fury's battle with depression is no secret,he wanted to quit alltogether after the Pajkic fight.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:30 PM   #236
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Supposedly Jennings and Wilder was negotiated but GBP said the money was too low for wilder to the point that it wasn't a real offer. When GBP countered Main Events walked.
Wilder aint no great shakes. If he wants to up his profile (for his daughter's sake) then he should take whatever he's given.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:06 PM   #237
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Deontay makes good money, like I said if jennings makes more it isn't that much more and Deontay is now starting to step up the competition.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:11 PM   #238
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It's been posted a few times in the past,by me and other fans of Fury,he was in a shitty place at the time mentally,thought it would benefit him more training at home .. his old man was in trouble with the law for gouging someones eye out etc before finally being jailed early in 2011 which sent him even further over the edge,his depression stayed with him pretty much throughout the entirety of 2011 .. his son was seriously ill etc Fury's battle with depression is no secret,he wanted to quit alltogether after the Pajkic fight.
OK, then. Thanks for this info.

Still, the fact that he's training with his Uncle and/or Dad, just the fact that he thought this would be a good move for whatever reason, is another reason to question Fury's future. - Shades of Golata?
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:14 PM   #239
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Wilder aint no great shakes. If he wants to up his profile (for his daughter's sake) then he should take whatever he's given.
Read it again. It's GBP that killed the deal, not Wilder. - And you can bet that Jennings' people made that ridiculously low offer so the deal would not go through, yet it wouldn't look like they were ducking Wilder.

- And FWIW, in another thread, someone recently posted a translation of a statement from Manual Charr, in which Charr stated that Wilder has been calling him out on a regular basis.

No one will fight this guy.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:27 PM   #240
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Wilder is a fucking joke, as are most of his supporters.... Most of which are Klitschko and Fury haters. how can anybody bash K2, and Fury but praise the terrible bum crushing Wilder?
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