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Old 01-17-2013, 11:17 AM   #76
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sky punch stats have Haye and klitschko throwing 215 and 216 punches.

I am sure they do

Would not surprise me one bit.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:28 AM   #77
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They have a few common opponents and Wlad lost to 2 of them.......
Which means what? Styles make fights. I don't think you will find any respected trainer or analyst that would say Vits is better in any department except chin. We know unequivocally his resume isn't as good nor was his one defense of the heavyweight championship over Danny Williams on par With Wlads defenses as champion.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:04 PM   #78
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True, but Vits isn't half as good as lil brother.
The current version we have seen the last 2-3 years isnt as good as prime Wlad.

Haye has him scared.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:33 PM   #79
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I never said Wlad was responsible. It was more of a clash of styles. Wlad is a safety first, **** him up 2nd, fighter. His brother is more domineering, is less concerned with David's power. (btw I do think, even now, that Vitali would beat Haye).

Also Haye gets shat on by so many on this forum for "running" from Wlad. He spent the entire fight in range or there abouts, he just wasn't good enough to get to Wlad; but who is?
Thing is, according to most people over the years (fewer every fight) who say there's a blueprint for beating Wlad, the only way to do it is to blitz him early, get in his face and destroy him. Before the fight, Haye/Booth suggested, if only indirectly, that they understood this, but the attempts to get inside were a little less spirited than what was required IMO. I agree though, I don't think anyone stands a chance of getting inside long enough to topple Wlad now that his footwork is so good, perfected by Steward.
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:31 PM   #80
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Ye sorry about the title, it's from the article where I found this
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:56 PM   #81
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I hope Stiverne pulls the upset here, I really don't want to see Vitali/Arreola again...
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:51 PM   #82
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Stiverve was losing on points to shot Ray Austin after 9 rounds not so long ago......
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:07 PM   #83
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The current version we have seen the last 2-3 years isnt as good as prime Wlad.

Haye has him scared.
While the version of Haye in the same time has lost by shut out as well beating two garbage domestic level clowns. I really don't think Vitali cares that much about this blown up CW. Haye Vitali would just be a repeat of Vitali Adamek.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:37 PM   #84
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Vitali like his "fans" are running scared of the Haye.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:55 PM   #85
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If Haye got the Vitali fight it could only go 2 ways and they are a KO win for Vitali or points win for Vitali
Then why is Boente so eager to make less money for Vitali's last fight. It reeks of protection of Klitschko's legacy and the acknowledgement that Haye could very well derail that. Its a poor move if this fight doesnt happen, for someone who moaned and whinged when he couldnt get a semi retired boxer back into the ring, he sure is hypocritical. Only Idiots and fools would rather see Vitali face Arreola or Stiverne. Do Vitali's team believe in him anymore, what a massive anti climax that would be to a fine career.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:43 PM   #86
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The idea of a rematch between Arreola and Vitali is ridiculous. Why on earth would Vitali continue his career for this? just retire already.

Haye and Tyson Fury are the only names worth mentioning for Vitali, maybe Povetkin.
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While the version of Haye in the same time has lost by shut out as well beating two garbage domestic level clowns. I really don't think Vitali cares that much about this blown up CW. Haye Vitali would just be a repeat of Vitali Adamek.
It would look nothing like the Adamek fight. Haye is much faster and versatile.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:28 PM   #88
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Vitali loves beating up bums.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:31 PM   #89
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While the version of Haye in the same time has lost by shut out as well beating two garbage domestic level clowns. I really don't think Vitali cares that much about this blown up CW. Haye Vitali would just be a repeat of Vitali Adamek.
You racist, you just hating on the black man
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:39 PM   #90
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I just hope Haye doesn't get the fight. That prick is only out for what he can do for David Haye. He talks an epic game then goes on to do absolutly **** all. Plus he's deluded in thinking Vitali vs himself is a fight anyone wants to see.
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