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Old 01-17-2013, 06:03 AM   #16
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Default Re: When you look at Ricky Burns' K.O% you would think he couldn't K.O a fly, so..?

I think it depends on how hard Burns chooses to hit personally. Against Mitchell he was saying after only the second round to Billy in the corner "I'm getting through" and realised that his punches were having on effect on Mitchell so he stepped it up and started to plant his feet.

Against Katsidis and Martinez he hardly threw a single shot that had what I would call bad intentions. He just threw clipping, scoring shots, but with no real venom in them. It's like he had accepted that he probably wasn't going to KO either of them and realised that their punches may hurt him more than the other way around so he just landed the quick point scoring shots rather than the heavy punches.

He definitely hits harder at LW though and if he gets through with a few against Vazquez who is to say he won't follow up and maybe finish him off!
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:13 AM   #17
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He's not feather fisted but his power is average.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:06 AM   #18
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Against Katsidis and Martinez he hardly threw a single shot that had what I would call bad intentions.
and even then he still hurt both guys on occasion, Katsidis to the body then head, and he sent Martinez wobbling back to his corner after one sustained attack
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:44 AM   #19
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Default Re: When you look at Ricky Burns' K.O% you would think he couldn't K.O a fly, so..?

I'm not being unfair in saying that he does not have one punch knock out power.

He is a combination puncher. and nobody can say his combinations, when they land, lack power.

I think he could take down anyone with a good 3 or 4 punches, landed on the button.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:38 PM   #20
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He's a really big lad there was nothing between us size wise when I was 10stone and I was big for the weight... How he got to 9/4 ill never know.

I think he's changed a lot since the early days, he's matured and I've never seen anyone graft like him in the gym. Billy's done a great job bringing him back- that's not to say his original gym has nothing to with his success - they set the foundations but sometimes a change is as good as a rest and the change to Billy Nelson proved a great move for him.
I'd love to know your thoughts on this match up with Vasquez?
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:51 PM   #21
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Cant you answer that yourself Robert?
Hes went from losing the British title twice, to an undefeated commonwealth and two weight world champion since hes changed his style,self explanitory really isnt it robert
defo he is different fighter but its just good hear other people opinions on things, what would you say is the biggest change you have made in his style, he seems to be fighter whom can raise his level to the quality of fighter he is fighting. Do you if they will be fighting for the ring title?
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:56 PM   #22
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Default Re: When you look at Ricky Burns' K.O% you would think he couldn't K.O a fly, so..?

Its more to tdo with styles you fight at.

Ricky is a big guy and i bet he hits just as hard as some of the harder hitting lightweights. But its about how you fight.

I dont think he needs to be a ko artist. He is big and strong at the weight which should make up for that. He should be able to push opponents back and use his strengths
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:05 PM   #23
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He's no Nigel Benn, that's for sure.
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:07 PM   #24
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He's no Nigel Benn, that's for sure.
Neither was Pernell Whittaker,but he managed just fine.
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:53 PM   #25
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Default Re: When you look at Ricky Burns' K.O% you would think he couldn't K.O a fly, so..?

Burns has not always been a top fighter, thus you cannot assess his ability on his whole career but since he has become a top fighter. He is currently in form and you must base him off of this i.e. the durability of the people he has fought, how many people he has stopped etc
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:47 PM   #26
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Default Re: When you look at Ricky Burns' K.O% you would think he couldn't K.O a fly, so..?

A few things that count against Burns when rating his power is that he doesnt sit down on his punches that often, his gmaeplan usually involves outboxing his opponent rather than taking their head off. I think his power is average even if his record doesnt suggest it, he certainly got Martinez's and Katsidis' respect. Loading up on punches is just not the way he gets things done, that said his jab is quite underated, i rank it amongst the best in the world at the moment.
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:58 PM   #27
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Katsidis was there to be stopped. Marquez did it, Guerrero could have done if he went for it.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:07 PM   #28
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Burns has not always been a top fighter, thus you cannot assess his ability on his whole career but since he has become a top fighter. He is currently in form and you must base him off of this i.e. the durability of the people he has fought, how many people he has stopped etc
Perfectly put Achilles.Even three years ago,99% of fans would've scoffed at the suggestion he'd be competing for the top spot at 135.
Now he's the most improved fighter in Europe and should really be judged from Martinez onwards.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:10 AM   #29
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Ricky isnt a one punch ko artist but what he is improving on weekly is his timing and shot selection added to the volume of punches he throws the LW are in big trouble
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:42 AM   #30
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