Just how bad was Haglar robbed if at all against SRL? - Page 4

TheSouthpaw · 01-17-2013, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnaNasakki

An old rusty fighter(albeit great and crafty) comes out of a long ass retirement, and you give him free rounds to find timing, confidence and rhythm? Great job on that, Marvin.

Yup!..It was pretty dumb on Haglars part..the worst part is you'd think he knew better!..

duranimal · 01-17-2013, 07:37 PM

Can't be no robbery when you voluntarily present your opponant with the first 4 rounds on a platter.

TheSouthpaw · 01-17-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by duranimal

Can't be no robbery when you voluntarily present your opponant with the first 4 rounds on a platter.

He gave those rounds to Leonard!..

TheSouthpaw · 01-17-2013, 07:46 PM

So lets just say that the first 6 rounds of this fight wasnt Haglars best work.

rusak · 01-17-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

He was the clear victor.

Not the worst robbery ever.

When did you last see the fight? I haven't seen it in a long time but I had Leonard winning clearly.

Vyborg1917 · 01-17-2013, 07:47 PM

I always found Round 2 to be extremely close; definitely scorable for Hagler.

TheSouthpaw · 01-17-2013, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vyborg1917

I always found Round 2 to be extremely close; definitely scorable for Hagler.

Not really..

Bogotazo · 01-17-2013, 08:39 PM

I scored the fight a draw with a couple of even rounds, which I generally hate giving. There were some rounds there were just a select few punches to really choose from.

Cc.. · 01-17-2013, 08:42 PM

Fights like this are what make boxing so much more interesting than other sports.. Could watch it 3 times and have Hagler/Leonard/Draw and none would be wrong, just seeing it differently each time.

TheSouthpaw · 01-17-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cc..

Fights like this are what make boxing so much more interesting than other sports.. Could watch it 3 times and have Hagler/Leonard/Draw and none would be wrong, just seeing it differently each time.

This is true!

MMJoe · 01-17-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSouthpaw

Ive seen this fight I dont know how many times and for the life of me I just dont see Haglar being robbed of anything. I thought it was genius on Leonards part to wait till there was 30 seconds left to steal each round, and had Haglar been a little more busy and patient and fought his own fight instead of falling right into Rays trickery...It might have been a different outcome.

I guess it must only me taht saw it this way, but the fight looked like leonard had a walk in the park wiht this fight. he beat hagler every which way from sunday.

Vyborg1917 · 01-17-2013, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSouthpaw

Not really..

Really, if you watch for actual punches landed.

Synthetic Decay · 01-17-2013, 09:09 PM

Well Ray won the first six, four and five were reasonably close. I have this fresh in my mind as i just watched them.

Bill1234 · 01-17-2013, 09:19 PM

I know I'll sound like a broken record to those who have seen my comments on it previously, but oh well.

I thought Hagler landed the harder, cleaner shots, and also put in a lot of good body work that seems to go unappreciated. Much of Leonard's flash was caught on the gloves and shoulders on Marvin, and many of the shots that did get through were grazing, few landed really flush.

I've scored it 3 or 4 times with an open mind, and every time I have it come out 7-5 in favor of Marvin.

Round 1: 10-9 Leonard
Round 2: 10-9 Leonard (20-18 Leonard)
Round 3: 10-9 Hagler (29-28 Leonard)
Round 4: 10-9 Leonard (39-37 Leonard)
Round 5: 10-9 Hagler (48-47 Leonard)
Round 6: 10-9 Leonard (58-56 Leonard)
Round 7: 10-9 Hagler (67-66 Leonard)
Round 8: 10-9 Hagler (76-76)
Round 9: 10-9 Hagler (86-85 Hagler)
Round 10: 10-9 Hagler (96-94 Hagler)
Round 11: 10-9 Hagler (106-103 Hagler)
Round 12: 10-9 Leonard (115-113 Hagler)

I'll gladly discuss any rounds with people who question why I gave it to the said fighter.

TheSouthpaw · 01-17-2013, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill1234

I know I'll sound like a broken record to those who have seen my comments on it previously, but oh well.

I thought Hagler landed the harder, cleaner shots, and also put in a lot of good body work that seems to go unappreciated. Much of Leonard's flash was caught on the gloves and shoulders on Marvin, and many of the shots that did get through were grazing, few landed really flush.

I've scored it 3 or 4 times with an open mind, and every time I have it come out 7-5 in favor of Marvin.

Round 1: 10-9 Leonard
Round 2: 10-9 Leonard (20-18 Leonard)
Round 3: 10-9 Hagler (29-28 Leonard)
Round 4: 10-9 Leonard (39-37 Leonard)
Round 5: 10-9 Hagler (48-47 Leonard)
Round 6: 10-9 Leonard (58-56 Leonard)
Round 7: 10-9 Hagler (67-66 Leonard)
Round 8: 10-9 Hagler (76-76)
Round 9: 10-9 Hagler (86-85 Hagler)
Round 10: 10-9 Hagler (96-94 Hagler)
Round 11: 10-9 Hagler (106-103 Hagler)
Round 12: 10-9 Leonard (115-113 Hagler)

I'll gladly discuss any rounds with people who question why I gave it to the said fighter.

Round 3!??

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TheSouthpaw Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: St. Louis Posts: 2,862 vCash: 500	Re: Just how bad was Haglar robbed if at all against SRL? So lets just say that the first 6 rounds of this fight wasnt Haglars best work.
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Bogotazo Amateur East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New York Posts: 17,549 vCash: 0	Re: Just how bad was Haglar robbed if at all against SRL? I scored the fight a draw with a couple of even rounds, which I generally hate giving. There were some rounds there were just a select few punches to really choose from.
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Cc.. Journeyman Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 60 vCash: 75	Re: Just how bad was Haglar robbed if at all against SRL? Fights like this are what make boxing so much more interesting than other sports.. Could watch it 3 times and have Hagler/Leonard/Draw and none would be wrong, just seeing it differently each time.
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Synthetic Decay Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 293 vCash: 500	Re: Just how bad was Haglar robbed if at all against SRL? Well Ray won the first six, four and five were reasonably close. I have this fresh in my mind as i just watched them.
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01-17-2013, 09:19 PM	#59
Bill1234 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,627 vCash: 1000	Re: Just how bad was Haglar robbed if at all against SRL? I know I'll sound like a broken record to those who have seen my comments on it previously, but oh well. I thought Hagler landed the harder, cleaner shots, and also put in a lot of good body work that seems to go unappreciated. Much of Leonard's flash was caught on the gloves and shoulders on Marvin, and many of the shots that did get through were grazing, few landed really flush. I've scored it 3 or 4 times with an open mind, and every time I have it come out 7-5 in favor of Marvin. Round 1: 10-9 Leonard Round 2: 10-9 Leonard (20-18 Leonard) Round 3: 10-9 Hagler (29-28 Leonard) Round 4: 10-9 Leonard (39-37 Leonard) Round 5: 10-9 Hagler (48-47 Leonard) Round 6: 10-9 Leonard (58-56 Leonard) Round 7: 10-9 Hagler (67-66 Leonard) Round 8: 10-9 Hagler (76-76) Round 9: 10-9 Hagler (86-85 Hagler) Round 10: 10-9 Hagler (96-94 Hagler) Round 11: 10-9 Hagler (106-103 Hagler) Round 12: 10-9 Leonard (115-113 Hagler) I'll gladly discuss any rounds with people who question why I gave it to the said fighter.
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