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Old 01-17-2013, 11:55 AM   #46
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Ah, here it is.
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1. Trinidad vs Hopkins
2. Jones vs Ruiz
3. Morales vs Barrera I
4. Corales vs Castillo I
5. Trinidad vs Vargas
6. Gatti vs Ward
7. Mosley vs Forrest
8. Tzsyu vs Judah
9. Jones vs Tarver II
10. Hamed vs Barrera
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:26 PM   #48
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Rummy, are you looking more for a list of "FOTY from each year, 2000-2009" (because if not, that's a great idea for maybe a separate thread) or "y4y best 10 fights from 2000-2009"? (meaning there could be, say, half from 2005 alone and none from a particular year or years)
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Looking at the 11 lists, glancing through them, I'm already extremely curious how this is going to turn out with the weighted points system. I like the idea of having 10 entries per participant now. However, I originally was thinking of going backwards until we reached 1900-1909, but now I'm thinking we'll go back as far as the 40s or 30s instead before going to the All Time survey. Curious to hear some feedback and where the cutoff should be, but I am fairly certain it will be one of those two.

Thinking things through, if when tabulating the scores, I come across a fight that slipped through that was outside the range, like 2010 or 19999, I'll try and contact that poster after the deadline if need be, and give him a few days to revise, or else I'll have to exclude that entire list. Also, if any ridiculous entries come across that get red flags from both McGrain and me, I think I will scratch that. Open-ended criteria is fun and open to interpretation, but I think we can all agree when someone is trolling or aiming to skew the results in such a way that harm's the integrity of what we're doing.

Thank you all for participating so far already!


I hope you continue to participate in the future surveys, and I also am looking forward to seeing more lists from people who've not yet ventured in here.

The cutoff should probably be the thirties. I was trying to watch the 100 best fights list Ring Magazine put out about a decade ago and most of the stuff from before the thirties is scarce or not to be found at all. I'm talking about:

Ad Wolgast KO13 Joe Rivers, July 4, 1912
Terry McGovern KO8 George Dixon, January 9, 1900
Tommy Ryan KO17 Tommy West, March 4, 1901
Ted Lewis W12 Jack Britton, August 31, 1915
Benny Leonard KO6 Richie Mitchell, January 14, 1921

How am I supposed to judge a decade I can't even watch, unless you want to make this a list of the best fights available for viewing?
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:24 PM   #50
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Rummy, are you looking more for a list of "FOTY from each year, 2000-2009" (because if not, that's a great idea for maybe a separate thread) or "y4y best 10 fights from 2000-2009"? (meaning there could be, say, half from 2005 alone and none from a particular year or years)
Not year-by-year, just 10 "best" from that range. So yeah, 5 of the fights could be from 2005, with other years from the range having no inclusions.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:32 PM   #51
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The cutoff should probably be the thirties. I was trying to watch the 100 best fights list Ring Magazine put out about a decade ago and most of the stuff from before the thirties is scarce or not to be found at all. I'm talking about:

Ad Wolgast KO13 Joe Rivers, July 4, 1912
Terry McGovern KO8 George Dixon, January 9, 1900
Tommy Ryan KO17 Tommy West, March 4, 1901
Ted Lewis W12 Jack Britton, August 31, 1915
Benny Leonard KO6 Richie Mitchell, January 14, 1921

How am I supposed to judge a decade I can't even watch, unless you want to make this a list of the best fights available for viewing?
30s makes sense to me.
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yeah can't really be going to times when fights weren't readily available to watch imo
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You also forgot to mention just which MAB/Morales fight is listed in your top 10?
well spotted meant 1!
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Rummy I updated my list as I forgot to list the number for Mab v Em. I meant the first fight.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:59 PM   #55
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well spotted meant 1!
I figured that it was...A great trilogy but the first was a masterclass IMHO!
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Rummy I updated my list as I forgot to list the number for Mab v Em. I meant the first fight.
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I figured that it was...A great trilogy but the first was a masterclass IMHO!
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1. the cobra
1. Israel Vasquez vs Rafael Marquez III
2. Erik Morales vs Marco Antonio Barrera I
3. Diego Corrales vs Jose Luis Castillo I
4. Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez I
5. Mickey Ward vs Arturo Gatti I
6. Somsak Sithchatchawal vs Mahyar Manshipour
7. Israel Vasquez vs Rafael Marquez II
8. Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez II
9. Mickey Ward vs Emmanul Augustus
10. Felix Trinidad vs Fernando Vargas

2. McGrain
01 - Israel Vasquez-Rafael Marquez III
02 - Israel Vasquez-Rafael Marquez I
03 - Manny Pacquiao-Juan Manuel Marquez I
04 - Micky Ward-Arturo Gatti I
05 - Jose Morales-Manny Pacquiao I
06 - Juan Manuel Maruez-Manny Pacquiao II
07 - Erik Morales-Antonio Barrera I
08 - Manny Pacquiao KO2 Ricky Hatton
09 - Bernard Hopkins UD12 Kelly Pavlik
10 - Lennox Lewis TKO6 Vitali Klitschko

3. lufcrazy
Antonio Margarito v Miguel Cotto 1
Juan Manuel Marquez v Juan Diaz 1
Diego Corrales v Jose Luis Castillo 1
Israel Vasquez v Rafael Marquez 3
Micky Ward v Arturo Gatti 1
Rafael Marquez v Israel Vasquez 1
Arturo Gatti v Micky Ward 3
Marco Antonio Barrera v Erik Morales 1
Juan Manuel Marquez v Emmanuel Pacquiao 1
Somsak Sithchatchawal vs Mahyar Manshipour

4. PhillyPhan69
01 Erik Morales vs Manny Pacquaio I
02 MAB vs Erik Morales I
03 Ricky Hatton vs Kostya Tszyu
04 Miguel Cotto vs Paulie Malignaggi
05 Jaun Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquaio II
06 Shane Mosley vs Antonio Margarito
07 Antonio Margarito vs Miguel Cotto I
08 Bernard Hopkins vs Felix Trinidad
09 Manny Pacquaio vs Juan Manuel Marquez I
10 Israel Vasquez vs Rafa Marquez III

5. Dinamita85
01 Marco Antonio Barrera v Erik Morales 1
02 Arturo Gatti v Mickey Ward 1
03 Juan Manuel Marquez v Juan Diaz 1
04 Miguel Cotto v Antonio Margarito 1
05 Israel Vazquez v Rafael Marquez 3
06 Miguel Cotto v Ricardo Torres
07 Israel Vazquez v Rafael Marquez 2
08 Erik Morales v manny Pacquiao 2
09 Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba
10 Diego Corrales v Jose Luis Castillo

6. orriray59
1: Jose Luis Castillo vs. Diego Corrales I
2: Israel Vazquez vs. Rafael Marquez I
3: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez I
4: Erik Morales vs. Marco Antonio Barrera I
5: Israel Vazquez vs. Rafael Marquez III
6: Sergio Martinez vs. Paul Williams I
7: Erik Morales vs. Manny Pacquiao I
8: Bernard Hopkins vs. Felix Trinidad
9: Israel Vazquez vs. Rafael Marquez II
10: Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Juan Diaz I

7. bladerunner
1- Marco Antonio Barrera v Erik Morales I
2- Jose Luis Castillo v Diego Corrales I
3- Somsak Sitchatchawal v Mayhar Monshipour
4- Micky Ward v Emmanuel Burton
5- Oscar Larios v Israel Vazquez II
6- Juan Manuel Marquez v Juan Diaz I
7- Erik Morales v Manny Pacquiao I
8- Julio Gonzalez v Julian Letterlough
9- Manny Pacquiao v Juan Manuel Marquez I
10- Felix Trinidad v Fernando Vargas

8. Ovid***ile
1. Arturo Gatti vs Mickey Ward I
2. Marco Antonio Barrera vs Erik Morales I
3. Israel Vazquez vs Rafael Marquez II
4. Paul Williams vs Sergio Martinez I
5. Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez I
6. Marco Antonio Barrera vs Erik Morales III
7. Israel Vazquez vs Rafael Marquez III
8. Arturo Gatti vs Mickey Ward III
9. Mickey Ward vs Emmanuel Augustus
10. Bernard Dunne vs Ricardo Cordoba

9. Vic-JofreBRASIL
Israel Vasquez vs Rafael Marquez I
Israel Vasquez vs Rafael Marquez II
Somsak Sithchatchawal vs Mahyar Manshipour
Diego Corrales vs JL Castillo
Felix Trinidad vs Fernando Vargas
Elvir Muriqi vs Sam Ahmad
Arturo Gatti vs Micky Ward I
Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz I
In-Ji Chi vs Michael Brodie
Acelino Freitas vs Jorge Barrios[/quote]

10. Zakman
1. Diego Corrales vs Jose Luis Castillo I
2. Israel Vazquez vs. Rafael Marquez I
3. Arturo Gatti vs Micky Ward I
4. Erik Morales vs. Marco Antonio Barrera I
5. Israel Vazquez vs. Rafael Marquez III
6. Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez I
7. Antonio Margarito v Miguel Cotto 1
8. Erik Morales vs. Manny Pacquiao I
9. Mickey Ward vs Emmanuel Augustus
10. Israel Vazquez vs. Rafael Marquez II

11. Rumsfeld
1. Erik Morales vs Marco Antonio Barrera 1
2. Arturo Gatti vs Micky Ward 1
3. Diego Corales vs Jose Luis Castillo 1
4. Manny Pacquiao vs Erik Morales 2
5. Bernard Hopkins vs Felix Trinidad
6. Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez 2
7. Israel Vazquez vs Rafael Marquez 3
8. Shane Mosley vs. Oscar De La Hoya
9. Sergei Liakhovich UD Lamon Brewster
10. Lennox Lewis TKO6 Vitali Klitschko

12. Drew101
1. Sithchatawal-Monshipour
2. Vasquez-Marquez III
3. Vasquez-Marquez II
4. Barerra-Morales I
5. Barrera-Morales III
6. Gatti-Ward I
7. Ward-Burton
8. Corrales-Castillo 1
9. Toney-Jirov
10. Cotto-Torres[

13. kirk
1 - Morales vs Pac 1
2 - Trinidad vs Vargas
3 - Mab vs Morales 1
4 - Rafa vs Vasquez 1
5 - Ward vs Gatti 1
6 - Pac vs JMM 2
7 - Corralles vs Castillo 1
8 - Ward vs Burton
9 - Cotto vs Torres
10 - Toney vs Jirov

14. Tackleberry
1. . Diego Corrales vs Jose Luis Castillo
2. Eric Morales vs Marco Antonio Barrera I
3. Rafael Marquez vs Israel Vazquez III
4. Micky Ward vs Arturo Gatti I
5. Micky Ward vs Emanuel Augustus
6. Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez II
7. Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez I
8. Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz I
9. Eric Morales vs Marco Antonio Barrera III
10. Somsak Sithchatchawal vs Mahyar Monshipour

15. Mr Butt
1.barrera/morales I
2.i.vasquez/r.marquez III
3.lewis/vitali klit
4.i.vasquez/r.marquez I
5.corrales/Castillo I
6.moore/macklin
7.ward/augustus
8.froch/pascal
9.ward/gatti I
10.calzaghe/lacy

16. Icemmann
1. Trinidad vs Hopkins
2. Jones vs Ruiz
3. Morales vs Barrera I
4. Corales vs Castillo I
5. Trinidad vs Vargas
6. Gatti vs Ward
7. Mosley vs Forrest
8. Tzsyu vs Judah
9. Jones vs Tarver II
10. Hamed vs Barrera
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:36 PM   #58
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Some great lists everyone! Thank you all who have already participated!



I am very much looking forward to seeing how the final tallies turn out!

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FYI - I am pushing the deadline up for this first survey, and officially going back to the 1930-1939 period, not the 1900-1909 period. So it will ultimately be a 9 survey series.

SO THE NEW OFFICIAL DEADLINE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SURVEY IS JANUARY 30, 2013, 12:00am EST
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As I said, can't wait to see the results for this one, and that got me thinking how interesting (and dare I say "fun") it will be to go through the 90s, and then the 80s and 70s.

Just randomly thinking....the 70s will have a strong bias towards HW fights (for obvious reasons), and then we have the Fab 4 in the 80s along with Tyson, and that had me thinking Tyson-Douglas was actually the 90s, which is next up.

My mind is already inadvertently throwing fights I love into different decades, and thinking of all the possibilities in the next 3.

McGrain, I wonder if this will be another case of diminishing returns, or if this in fact winds up more closely resembling a bell curve.

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