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Old 01-17-2013, 08:47 PM   #46
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He was the clear victor.

Not the worst robbery ever.
When did you last see the fight? I haven't seen it in a long time but I had Leonard winning clearly.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:47 PM   #47
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I always found Round 2 to be extremely close; definitely scorable for Hagler.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:03 PM   #48
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I always found Round 2 to be extremely close; definitely scorable for Hagler.
Not really..
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:39 PM   #49
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I scored the fight a draw with a couple of even rounds, which I generally hate giving. There were some rounds there were just a select few punches to really choose from.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:42 PM   #50
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Fights like this are what make boxing so much more interesting than other sports.. Could watch it 3 times and have Hagler/Leonard/Draw and none would be wrong, just seeing it differently each time.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:49 PM   #51
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Fights like this are what make boxing so much more interesting than other sports.. Could watch it 3 times and have Hagler/Leonard/Draw and none would be wrong, just seeing it differently each time.
This is true!
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:01 PM   #52
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Ive seen this fight I dont know how many times and for the life of me I just dont see Haglar being robbed of anything. I thought it was genius on Leonards part to wait till there was 30 seconds left to steal each round, and had Haglar been a little more busy and patient and fought his own fight instead of falling right into Rays trickery...It might have been a different outcome.
I guess it must only me taht saw it this way, but the fight looked like leonard had a walk in the park wiht this fight. he beat hagler every which way from sunday.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:05 PM   #53
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Not really..
Really, if you watch for actual punches landed.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:09 PM   #54
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Well Ray won the first six, four and five were reasonably close. I have this fresh in my mind as i just watched them.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:19 PM   #55
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I know I'll sound like a broken record to those who have seen my comments on it previously, but oh well.

I thought Hagler landed the harder, cleaner shots, and also put in a lot of good body work that seems to go unappreciated. Much of Leonard's flash was caught on the gloves and shoulders on Marvin, and many of the shots that did get through were grazing, few landed really flush.

I've scored it 3 or 4 times with an open mind, and every time I have it come out 7-5 in favor of Marvin.

Round 1: 10-9 Leonard
Round 2: 10-9 Leonard (20-18 Leonard)
Round 3: 10-9 Hagler (29-28 Leonard)
Round 4: 10-9 Leonard (39-37 Leonard)
Round 5: 10-9 Hagler (48-47 Leonard)
Round 6: 10-9 Leonard (58-56 Leonard)
Round 7: 10-9 Hagler (67-66 Leonard)
Round 8: 10-9 Hagler (76-76)
Round 9: 10-9 Hagler (86-85 Hagler)
Round 10: 10-9 Hagler (96-94 Hagler)
Round 11: 10-9 Hagler (106-103 Hagler)
Round 12: 10-9 Leonard (115-113 Hagler)

I'll gladly discuss any rounds with people who question why I gave it to the said fighter.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:22 PM   #56
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I know I'll sound like a broken record to those who have seen my comments on it previously, but oh well.

I thought Hagler landed the harder, cleaner shots, and also put in a lot of good body work that seems to go unappreciated. Much of Leonard's flash was caught on the gloves and shoulders on Marvin, and many of the shots that did get through were grazing, few landed really flush.

I've scored it 3 or 4 times with an open mind, and every time I have it come out 7-5 in favor of Marvin.

Round 1: 10-9 Leonard
Round 2: 10-9 Leonard (20-18 Leonard)
Round 3: 10-9 Hagler (29-28 Leonard)
Round 4: 10-9 Leonard (39-37 Leonard)
Round 5: 10-9 Hagler (48-47 Leonard)
Round 6: 10-9 Leonard (58-56 Leonard)
Round 7: 10-9 Hagler (67-66 Leonard)
Round 8: 10-9 Hagler (76-76)
Round 9: 10-9 Hagler (86-85 Hagler)
Round 10: 10-9 Hagler (96-94 Hagler)
Round 11: 10-9 Hagler (106-103 Hagler)
Round 12: 10-9 Leonard (115-113 Hagler)

I'll gladly discuss any rounds with people who question why I gave it to the said fighter.
Round 3!??
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:22 PM   #57
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Round 3!??


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:23 PM   #58
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I know I'll sound like a broken record to those who have seen my comments on it previously, but oh well.

I thought Hagler landed the harder, cleaner shots, and also put in a lot of good body work that seems to go unappreciated. Much of Leonard's flash was caught on the gloves and shoulders on Marvin, and many of the shots that did get through were grazing, few landed really flush.

I've scored it 3 or 4 times with an open mind, and every time I have it come out 7-5 in favor of Marvin.

Round 1: 10-9 Leonard
Round 2: 10-9 Leonard (20-18 Leonard)
Round 3: 10-9 Hagler (29-28 Leonard)
Round 4: 10-9 Leonard (39-37 Leonard)
Round 5: 10-9 Hagler (48-47 Leonard)
Round 6: 10-9 Leonard (58-56 Leonard)
Round 7: 10-9 Hagler (67-66 Leonard)
Round 8: 10-9 Hagler (76-76)
Round 9: 10-9 Hagler (86-85 Hagler)
Round 10: 10-9 Hagler (96-94 Hagler)
Round 11: 10-9 Hagler (106-103 Hagler)
Round 12: 10-9 Leonard (115-113 Hagler)

I'll gladly discuss any rounds with people who question why I gave it to the said fighter.
But that is some pretty good scoring my man..
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:24 PM   #59
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
Well!..Do explain please.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:29 PM   #60
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Well!..Do explain please.

I thought it was a clear Leonard round, i apologize if i was mistaken kind sir.
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