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Old 01-17-2013, 04:36 PM   #61
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To quote one of Phil Anselmo's lyrics (former lead singer of Pantera, and a huge boxing fan)

"The smell in the air is chicken-shit!"
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:45 PM   #62
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Poxy fight really is, Let's face Hatton after 3 years and plenty of power and drink abuse was 6 mins away from beating this guy.

Senchenko is just another name to add, I respect Khan's developing things with Hunter but there's only so long you can stay away till your back in there.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:19 PM   #63
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It's a sensible choice. He didn't show enough improvements last time out to be thrown back in with the best. With time on his side, he has every right to take baby steps whilst settling down with a new trainer.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:29 PM   #64
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Agreed, Rico.

If it was either Mathysse, Ortiz or Garcia and he lost, what would everyone say?

"Oh, well he's not improved, time for you to retire, Khan!"

And it's not like he's taking these fights while holding a belt, so I don't see where people should find the right to criticise, even if it's not the best of fights. It really does bother me sometimes when people criticise Amir, yet Maidana just fought an absolute nobody, Matthysse is fighting Mike Dallas, Garcia just fought a finished Morales for the second time, yet you never see the sort of criticism come upon them that is bestowed upon Amir.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:43 PM   #65
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I dunno lads, To see development you need to be tested i don't see Senchenko posing the tests Amir needs.

But i see where you lads are coming from and if it's in UK it's going to be billed as the man who ruined Hatton's return etc. Looks good, Khan deals with him swiftly but then he's got to surely step back into world class level.

*I don't feel Senchenko is world class*.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:34 PM   #66
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I agree Mand, but even when we all pretty much consider Amir a level above, the fella does make silly mistakes and I'd like to see how he deals with someone this time around who is taller than him, plus another training camp shall hopefully help him a little before fighting the bigger men.

It's more of a benefit from a promotional stand point, like you say.

Yep, I'd like to see him fight Lopez ideally afterwards.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:48 PM   #67
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i'd accept this guy as an opponent if khan was fighting 4 times this year, he's not, hes only fighting twice. senchenko is 36 as i'v already stated in another thread kotelnik is a much better fighter. if khan blows him out of there what has he learned? there are so many guys out there who are way more acceptable. bredis prescott has height and reach, he's beatable that would have sold massively over here. if he can't beat prescott even at this stage then whats the point
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:56 PM   #68
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Khan always struggles with fighters of a similar size.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:40 PM   #69
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Khan always struggles with fighters of a similar size.
Khan will get KO'ed like the bum he is.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:58 PM   #70
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Khan will get KO'ed like the bum he is.
At least he didn't pull out his ****ing toe.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:04 AM   #71
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As you have shown, for many dislike for Khan is ultimately due to his faith. Of course, it is disguised under illogical pretexts. Enough for you to make up lies.

He fought Medjadji and Drilzane, both suggestive of north-African Muslim names.
as you have shown,you can't say **** all jokingly about a brother muslim without being branded a KK white hat wear nazi racist bastard.
Seriously some people need to get offa there high horses and get a life.

Anyway,its not a bad fight,scenchenco is not world class as has been said,and khan deserves a easy fight after that molina fellow,shit hot him
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:26 AM   #72
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Agreed, Rico.

If it was either Mathysse, Ortiz or Garcia and he lost, what would everyone say?

"Oh, well he's not improved, time for you to retire, Khan!"

And it's not like he's taking these fights while holding a belt, so I don't see where people should find the right to criticise, even if it's not the best of fights. It really does bother me sometimes when people criticise Amir, yet Maidana just fought an absolute nobody, Matthysse is fighting Mike Dallas, Garcia just fought a finished Morales for the second time, yet you never see the sort of criticism come upon them that is bestowed upon Amir.
I think you're missing the point a bit mate. Don't think anyone is suggesting Khan immediately steps back in with Garcia, or any others you name, as his next fight. And as someone else has noted, there is a middle ground between the Garcias and Matthysse's of this world and the Senchenko's.

It just doesn't make much sense to move up to 147 to fight Senchenko, then move down again to fight Garcia or another decent 140 pounder. As someone else has said, Senchenko's quite a big 147 pounder so I wouldn't have thought he's gonna want to come down to 140. Even if he did drop to 140 that makes the fight even worse.

If Khan intends to stay at 147 after Senchenko and hopes to catch the Garcia rematch at that weight, then it makes sense, but to go up and down again just to fight Senchenko? Where's the benefit in that, if, as Khan keeps saying, the Garcia rematch is the ultimate goal for a few fights down the line?

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Old 01-18-2013, 03:28 AM   #73
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please let khan have a thousand more gimme fights and please keep throwing titles at him for his fan boys to crow about, and when is his new retirement date
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:43 AM   #74
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I think you're missing the point a bit mate. Don't think anyone is suggesting Khan immediately steps back in with Garcia, or any others you name, as his next fight. And as someone else has noted, there is a middle ground between the Garcias and Matthysse's of this world and the Senchenko's.

It just doesn't make much sense to move up to 147 to fight Senchenko, then move down again to fight Garcia or another decent 140 pounder. As someone else has said, Senchenko's quite a big 147 pounder so I wouldn't have thought he's gonna want to come down to 140.

If Khan intends to stay at 147 after Senchenko and hopes to catch the Garcia rematch at that weight, then it makes sense, but to go up and down again just to fight Senchenko? Where's the benefit in that, if, as Khan keeps saying, the Garcia rematch is the ultimate goal for a few fights down the line?
Its not like he's jumping up a whole old school weight division, its only 7 pounds for God sakes.

When a fighter gets mullered like Khan did against Garcia there will always be a level of rebuilding and this means fighting lesser boxers, every champion who gets beat in that manner does the same. Its not just to put into practice what has been learned in the gym with his new trainer but its more a confidence builder. Senchenko isn't a bad fight in this context, he isn't a bad fight at all. The only disappointment is that if Khan is looking for confidence building and learning fights at this stage he should be in the ring at least every 3 months
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:55 AM   #75
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Its not like he's jumping up a whole old school weight division, its only 7 pounds for God sakes.

When a fighter gets mullered like Khan did against Garcia there will always be a level of rebuilding and this means fighting lesser boxers, every champion who gets beat in that manner does the same. Its not just to put into practice what has been learned in the gym with his new trainer but its more a confidence builder. Senchenko isn't a bad fight in this context, he isn't a bad fight at all. The only disappointment is that if Khan is looking for confidence building and learning fights at this stage he should be in the ring at least every 3 months
I'm not saying Senchenko is that bad a fight, I just don't get the weight jumping. You say it's only 7 pounds, but Khan's been dropped by super featherweights, knocked out at lightweight and at light welter, so given the nature of his punch resistance a move upto welter just doesn't seem a clever move. I guess you could argue moving up might help his chin, but that hasn't happened so far in his career.
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