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Old 06-04-2012, 02:35 PM   #31
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Tony Tubbs wasn't 6'3", more like 6'2".
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Old 06-04-2012, 03:15 PM   #32
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As for bigger thighs. Fighters are bigger generally and thighs will see a higher increase in size because they are a bigger bodypart

Holyfield had very small thighs for a modern fighter - only 22inches

Tyson had huge 27inch thighs of pure muscle but in the clinches got pushed around
really? only 22 are you sure I'm under 12 stone and have the same size thigh
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:35 AM   #33
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The link is dead, anywhere else i can find the list?
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:01 AM   #34
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The link is dead, anywhere else i can find the list?
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There was another one avaliable on CBS but it's no longer there which is shame.

Couldn't imagine how big Carnera would be today with modern supplements, weights and PEDS.

As for Thigh sizes although never Champ, Tony Galento had 27" thighs and 18 1/4" Calves, it would have to be among the biggest ever.
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:32 AM   #35
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There was another one avaliable on CBS but it's no longer there which is shame.

Couldn't imagine how big Carnera would be today with modern supplements, weights and PEDS.

As for Thigh sizes although never Champ, Tony Galento had 27" thighs and 18 1/4" Calves, it would have to be among the biggest ever.
Carnera was around 6,6 260lbs+ with modern training, nutrition, PEDs etc. he would be a 300lb monster, most likely a similar size to Alexander Ustinov but more muscular.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:36 PM   #36
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Reach vs height

Primo Carnera 85″..... 6′ 5″

Kikolay Valuev 85″......7′ 0″

Sonny Liston 84″.....6′ 0″

George Foreman 82″....6′ 3″

Wlad 81″......... 6′ 6″

Vitali 79″.........6′ 7″

Muhammad Ali 78″......6′ 3″

Reach to height ratio: Sonny Liston has everyone else beat.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:39 PM   #37
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Not a heavyweight, but Tommy Hearns 78″.....6′ 1″ matches Ali for reach.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:42 PM   #38
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I do think weight differences are a bit difficult to make relevant due to the fight lengths being difference.

15 to 12 is a reduction of 20%. It's fair to say the smaller guys would genuinely be bigger in a 12 round fight and likewise todays guys would be smaller in a 15 round fight.


I need to re evaluate my h2h list definitely.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:04 PM   #39
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Ali's reach was 80.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:27 PM   #40
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Reach vs height

Primo Carnera 85″..... 6′ 5″

Kikolay Valuev 85″......7′ 0″

Sonny Liston 84″.....6′ 0″

George Foreman 82″....6′ 3″

Wlad 81″......... 6′ 6″

Vitali 79″.........6′ 7″

Muhammad Ali 78″......6′ 3″

Reach to height ratio: Sonny Liston has everyone else beat.
Liston's reach has been questioned... not that I have any answers...
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:28 PM   #41
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Remember...Marciano worked his ass off in camp to get down to 189 lbs...not like others who say"..**** it...that's good enough"...
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:15 PM   #42
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Yeah, he wasn't a big, big guy. However, given today's training methods and nutrition, he'd probably weigh about 210 or so. Big enough.

Louis would scale around 220 today, Jeffries maybe as high as 230.
I dont think Marciano would be 210, he wasnt naturally big short legs arms height, he wouldnt be as good hed be short and bulky with less stamina not good for him

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Old 01-19-2013, 01:18 AM   #43
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..jerry quarry said he never saw stats on him that were correct.....and he said the same about some of the guys he fought.
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:20 AM   #44
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Ali's reach was 80.
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:30 AM   #45
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Im sick and tired of hearing the if " he had todays nutrition and training he would be this big" bullshit. theres no way on earth marciano would get to 220 or whatever pounds without being a fat pudding. He fitted his frame perfectly just like the majority of top fighters!!
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