Jouis Walcott III

[janitor]

This could have happened during Louis's comeback, but the cards never quite fell that way.

How do you see it playing out?

[McGrain]

Walcott UD.

[Theron]

Walcott would win against an older Louis, he still won the first fight and got fucked and then obviously Louis wins the second but no rubber match cause Louis ''supposedly'' won 2 already...

[red cobra]

Walcott would have taken no chances vs louis in a third fight. I think it would have been JJW's fight on a close decision...with no knockdowns this time.

[Stevie G]

Originally Posted by janitor

This could have happened during Louis's comeback, but the cards never quite fell that way.

How do you see it playing out?

Walcott takes a clear points verdict this time. Around the time a third fight would take place,he had n't deteriorated as a fighter. Louis,sadly,had.

[janitor]

Might Walcott have got a knockout?

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by Stevie G

Walcott takes a clear points verdict this time. Around the time a third fight would take place,he had n't deteriorated as a fighter. Louis,sadly,had.

Ditto,or at least Walcott had not deteriorated to any marked extent.
Louis was a mere facsimile ,the fact that he racked up those wins when he had gone back so far just illustrates how good he was in his prime.

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by janitor

Might Walcott have got a knockout?

Third time around, I don't think Jersey Joe would take the chance of going on an all out offensive. Decision win for me.

[Danmann]

Walcott got better with age. Look at for example, the opposite--Tyson, Floyd Patterson---heavyweights who peaked very young, by age 20 they were in primes. Larry Holmes is an example of the norm, a guy who got ko'd by Duane Bobick in Olympic team box offs, and was written off. Got better, but did not have to wait till he was 35 to peak. Walcott is end of spectrum, he hit his best years and best physical skills at and after age 33-34.

Louis was greater, and better in prime. But in louis comeback years walcott beats him, maybe embarrasses him ( and I dont mean that in demeaning way towards louis)

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by Danmann

Walcott got better with age. Look at for example, the opposite--Tyson, Floyd Patterson---heavyweights who peaked very young, by age 20 they were in primes. Larry Holmes is an example of the norm, a guy who got ko'd by Duane Bobick in Olympic team box offs, and was written off. Got better, but did not have to wait till he was 35 to peak. Walcott is end of spectrum, he hit his best years and best physical skills at and after age 33-34.

Louis was greater, and better in prime. But in louis comeback years walcott beats him, maybe embarrasses him ( and I dont mean that in demeaning way towards louis)

Walcott had the benefit of a regular diet ,financial support ,and training daily, after Bochichio became his manager, and his results reflect it.

I dont believe any boxer hits their prime in their mid 30's, though with the assistance Walcott received ,their results might improve and have more consistancy .
Walcott had the skills and ability when he was 26 in 1940 scaling 192lbs, being stopped by Abe Simon,what he did not have was the motivation, financial cushion, regular food, and training.

After this fight he retired for 4 years, years when ,given the right support, he would have been in his prime.

Patterson in his prime at 20? Really , back then he weighed 166lbs.

[Unforgiven]

Walcott was probably a pretty good fighter back in the 1930s too. He was just given some tough fights at the wrong time.
Abe Simon was a tough fighter, a monster.

[Danmann]

Originally Posted by mcvey

Walcott had the benefit of a regular diet ,financial support ,and training daily, after Bochichio became his manager, and his results reflect it.

I dont believe any boxer hits their prime in their mid 30's, though with the assistance Walcott received ,their results might improve and have more consistancy .
Walcott had the skills and ability when he was 26 in 1940 scaling 192lbs, being stopped by Abe Simon,what he did not have was the motivation, financial cushion, regular food, and training.

After this fight he retired for 4 years, years when ,given the right support, he would have been in his prime.

Patterson in his prime at 20? Really , back then he weighed 166lbs.

How old was Patterson when he won title, that is age I meant. I thought it was 20 or 21.