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Duran 43 61.43%
Leonard 12 17.14%
Same tier 15 21.43%
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:55 PM   #16
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I never said he wasn't skilled. He was skilled and he was a street fighter but SRL was a better technician.
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duran = street fighter
duran = taxi driver.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:32 PM   #18
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duran = taxi driver.
I'd happily pay for a taxi if he was driving it
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Can Duran drive?
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:21 PM   #20
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I bet he can drive better than Leonard
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:00 PM   #22
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Duran is Greater:

Leonared was great, but cherry picked. The only great fight I can think of was Hearns 1.

He lost his greatest fight to Duran, So that proves head to head Duran was the better fighter. He was also older and coming up in weight. Leonard was at peak.

His revenge against Duran. Cherry picked, he knew Duran balloneed up and had partied.

Hearns he would not rematch until FAR later and Hearns Beat him.

Duran went 15 with a younger and fresher Hagler, Very competitive fight. Leonard... waited.. waited and waited. And won a very controversal decision in Haglers last fight. ( he did not look great)

He did beat benitez, Duran could not. But Duran has Barkley as a great win. This is WELL past his prime and WELL past his weight fighting a champion far younger and stronger.

Leonard..... Nada.

Duran fought into his late 40's ..... And beat many contenders way past his best. Leonard did not age well.

Duran is a clear winner, But Leonard is not more than 15 places from him. GVreat fighters both. But Duran , Head to head, peak to peak , Lb for Lb is better, Fought much better past his weight class, and for much longer.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:17 PM   #23
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I bet he can drive better than Leonard

I am not conviced that I would say he is a better driver than leonard...perhaps greater in an overall sense, but H2H Leonard has some physical advantages.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:19 PM   #24
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Duran was a street fighter with brute power who could be easily beat by pure boxers. Jumping weight was a result of him eating like a pig. More than than half of his LW opponents were nobody's.
SRL did the equivalent of a Tim Bradley moving up and beating Chavez Jr in his career.
Both great but SRL has the better skill, amateur and and pro pedigree to slightly edge him in greatness imo.


Yes street fighters routinely beat ATG great boxers and far bigger opponents while conceding most physical attributes.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:20 PM   #25
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Can Duran drive?


Only when drunk.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:28 PM   #26
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Duran is Greater:

Leonared was great, but cherry picked. The only great fight I can think of was Hearns 1.

He lost his greatest fight to Duran, So that proves head to head Duran was the better fighter. He was also older and coming up in weight. Leonard was at peak.

His revenge against Duran. Cherry picked, he knew Duran balloneed up and had partied.

Hearns he would not rematch until FAR later and Hearns Beat him.

Duran went 15 with a younger and fresher Hagler, Very competitive fight. Leonard... waited.. waited and waited. And won a very controversal decision in Haglers last fight. ( he did not look great)

He did beat benitez, Duran could not. But Duran has Barkley as a great win. This is WELL past his prime and WELL past his weight fighting a champion far younger and stronger.

Leonard..... Nada.

Duran fought into his late 40's ..... And beat many contenders way past his best. Leonard did not age well.

Duran is a clear winner, But Leonard is not more than 15 places from him. GVreat fighters both. But Duran , Head to head, peak to peak , Lb for Lb is better, Fought much better past his weight class, and for much longer.
nice post
Also Leonard was always the golden boy and paid well from his very first pro outing and was able to get his sniping demands met with the money made by promoters and opponents ,best example of that is a weight drained Danny Lalonde having to come down in weight to put his light heavyweight title up for Leonard

Whereas Duran fought his way to what he won even if it was a bit of a so called rookie in Davey Moore
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Duran is Greater:

Leonared was great, but cherry picked. The only great fight I can think of was Hearns 1.

He lost his greatest fight to Duran, So that proves head to head Duran was the better fighter. He was also older and coming up in weight. Leonard was at peak.

His revenge against Duran. Cherry picked, he knew Duran balloneed up and had partied.

Hearns he would not rematch until FAR later and Hearns Beat him.

Duran went 15 with a younger and fresher Hagler, Very competitive fight. Leonard... waited.. waited and waited. And won a very controversal decision in Haglers last fight. ( he did not look great)

He did beat benitez, Duran could not. But Duran has Barkley as a great win. This is WELL past his prime and WELL past his weight fighting a champion far younger and stronger.

Leonard..... Nada.

Duran fought into his late 40's ..... And beat many contenders way past his best. Leonard did not age well.

Duran is a clear winner, But Leonard is not more than 15 places from him. GVreat fighters both. But Duran , Head to head, peak to peak , Lb for Lb is better, Fought much better past his weight class, and for much longer.
While some/much of what you say is true it is to slanted, biased and angry sounding to be taken as unequivical truth....also again while containing truth it is slanted and incomplete....you are not painting a full picture...You like Duran and don't like Leonard, we get it!.....although I still rate Duran higher...

Losing to Duran (which you mention), is not as big of a minus as losing to DeJesus (not meant as a slam on Duran or DeJesus)....Both men avenged this loss although certainly in different fashion....

Duran was obliterated by Hearns (no great shame) in as decisive a manner as anyone ever...and to me is a bigger minus than SRL/ Norris-Camacho...

You give credit to Duran for losing to Hagler and strip Leonard for beating him (some crazy logic at work here?), a mystery to me and I scored the SRL fight for Hagler.

Sounds like you are using whatever tool available to denigrate Leonard rather than taking a clear and balanced total picture view.
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I am not conviced that I would say he is a better driver than leonard...perhaps greater in an overall sense, but H2H Leonard has some physical advantages.
You're crazy man. The only time Duran outdrove Leonard was when Leonard drove Durans car. When he drove his car no way Duran could keep up.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:20 PM   #29
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You're crazy man. The only time Duran outdrove Leonard was when Leonard drove Durans car. When he drove his car no way Duran could keep up.
I am pretty sure...that, that is what I said????
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I am pretty sure...that, that is what I said????
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