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Old 01-19-2013, 10:37 AM   #2866
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Mihael Carbajal Vs Aber Barajas

Never seen this before, Carbajal's quick turnaround after the disappointment of the Chiquita rematch. He appears not to have trained hard and his man can't whack much but they both engage each other and try to work around each other's guard, Carbajal gets clipped as always and trudges forward, landing the heavier leather. In the 2nd, it essentially ends up target practice as Carbajal gets his man in bad positions against the ropes and has no worries opening up with both hands to head and body.

In the 3rd Carbajal cripples the journeyman to ball and body before leaving him crumpled with a right hand. He bravely gets up, but lays against the ropes again and gets pummeled in similar fashion.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:14 AM   #2867
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One of them.

The Mexican's Amado Ursua and German Torres are up there as well, but certainly torres wasn't as clean a KO artist, with his telegraphed clubbing punches he was more like a Foreman, Moon, Roldan or Mugabi type puncher.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:19 AM   #2868
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Jung Koo Chang Vs Isidro Perez

CHANG: 3; 4;5; 9; 10; 11;
PEREZ: 1 (+1); 2; 6; 7; 8; 12

CHANG 113-114 PEREZ

Perez, sadly found dead in the last week, is thought by some to have been on the wrong end of the decision here. He puts in a performance here that resembles a drunk Ricardo Lopez with ADHD. He drops Chang with a looping left hook in the first that has the longtime champ' stunned for most of the round. The fight is on in the second when Chang stops surviving and tries to spring into life but he's still taking the damaging shots whilst offering little more than flailing and clinching himself.

3rd mainly Chang being Chang but he still gets caught with a couple of looping overhand rights behind the ear that seem to trouble him. Perez looks clueless whenever he gets caught in the blender. 4th is similar, but with Chang in control for more of it but also with more excitement as they punch it out more, with Chang getting the better of most of the exchanges and shutting Perez's offence down more, keeping his back to the ropes and diversifying his own attack. Chang lines Perez up and punches straight through the target with the right hand, but it wakes the challenger up and he sting and stuns Chang with a two fisted barrage coming off the ropes! Chang regains control and whilst he does the better work for most of the round Perez tries hard to keep up with him. Close rounds these.6th is again fiercely competitive, and Perez should've had a 10-8 for a knockdown that was ruled as a slip (maybe trod on Chang's foot?) but he hurt The Korean Hawk just after though, as in the earlier rounds Chang worked his way back into it.

There was a point in the 8th where Perez was teeing up on Chang, who was pretty much static. No surprise that after the Ohashi rematch (which followed this bout) he decided to pack it in. And the 9th is messy. 10 was like a high-paced version of the scrappy round before it. Some good action with both men getting their heads spun sideways by slashing right hands from in close. Both men take turns to unload in the 11th. Perez guts it out in the 12th, stunning Chang late in the roung and generally landing the better punches to snatch a close decision.

Will upload this later today so y'all that ain't seen it can share your thoughts and score what is a fast-paced, if scrappy for some parts, 12 round battle.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:21 AM   #2869
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Jung Koo Chang Vs Isidro Perez

CHANG: 3; 4;5; 9; 10; 11;
PEREZ: 1 (+1); 2; 6; 7; 8; 12

CHANG 113-114 PEREZ

Perez, sadly found dead in the last week, is thought by some to have been on the wrong end of the decision here. He puts in a performance here that resembles a drunk Ricardo Lopez with ADHD. He drops Chang with a looping left hook in the first that has the longtime champ' stunned for most of the round. The fight is on in the second when Chang stops surviving and tries to spring into life but he's still taking the damaging shots whilst offering little more than flailing and clinching himself.

3rd mainly Chang being Chang but he still gets caught with a couple of looping overhand rights behind the ear that seem to trouble him. Perez looks clueless whenever he gets caught in the blender. 4th is similar, but with Chang in control for more of it but also with more excitement as they punch it out more, with Chang getting the better of most of the exchanges and shutting Perez's offence down more, keeping his back to the ropes and diversifying his own attack. Chang lines Perez up and punches straight through the target with the right hand, but it wakes the challenger up and he sting and stuns Chang with a two fisted barrage coming off the ropes! Chang regains control and whilst he does the better work for most of the round Perez tries hard to keep up with him. Close rounds these.6th is again fiercely competitive, and Perez should've had a 10-8 for a knockdown that was ruled as a slip (maybe trod on Chang's foot?) but he hurt The Korean Hawk just after though, as in the earlier rounds Chang worked his way back into it.

There was a point in the 8th where Perez was teeing up on Chang, who was pretty much static. No surprise that after the Ohashi rematch (which followed this bout) he decided to pack it in. And the 9th is messy. 10 was like a high-paced version of the scrappy round before it. Some good action with both men getting their heads spun sideways by slashing right hands from in close. Both men take turns to unload in the 11th. Perez guts it out in the 12th, stunning Chang late in the roung and generally landing the better punches to snatch a close decision.

Will upload this later today so y'all that ain't seen it can share your thoughts and score what is a fast-paced, if scrappy for some parts, 12 round battle.

I just downloaded this myself.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:24 AM   #2870
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Or German Torres.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:28 AM   #2871
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One of them.

The Mexican's Amado Ursua and German Torres are up there as well, but certainly torres wasn't as clean a KO artist, with his telegraphed clubbing punches he was more like a Foreman, Moon, Roldan or Mugabi type puncher.
Yeah, Ursua as well of course.
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I just downloaded this myself.
Oh, I've got it on DVD, what do you use?
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:31 AM   #2873
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oh, i've got it on dvd, what do you use?
A famous torrent site I'm sure you've heard of.
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BORKED

Addie, uploaded this with you in mind.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:33 AM   #2875
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Addie, uploaded this with you in mind.
Watching now. Then I'll continue my education of Olivares.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:43 AM   #2876
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Jung Koo Chang Vs Isidro Perez

CHANG: 3; 4;5; 9; 10; 11;
PEREZ: 1 (+1); 2; 6; 7; 8; 12

CHANG 113-114 PEREZ

Perez, sadly found dead in the last week, is thought by some to have been on the wrong end of the decision here. He puts in a performance here that resembles a drunk Ricardo Lopez with ADHD. He drops Chang with a looping left hook in the first that has the longtime champ' stunned for most of the round. The fight is on in the second when Chang stops surviving and tries to spring into life but he's still taking the damaging shots whilst offering little more than flailing and clinching himself.

3rd mainly Chang being Chang but he still gets caught with a couple of looping overhand rights behind the ear that seem to trouble him. Perez looks clueless whenever he gets caught in the blender. 4th is similar, but with Chang in control for more of it but also with more excitement as they punch it out more, with Chang getting the better of most of the exchanges and shutting Perez's offence down more, keeping his back to the ropes and diversifying his own attack. Chang lines Perez up and punches straight through the target with the right hand, but it wakes the challenger up and he sting and stuns Chang with a two fisted barrage coming off the ropes! Chang regains control and whilst he does the better work for most of the round Perez tries hard to keep up with him. Close rounds these.6th is again fiercely competitive, and Perez should've had a 10-8 for a knockdown that was ruled as a slip (maybe trod on Chang's foot?) but he hurt The Korean Hawk just after though, as in the earlier rounds Chang worked his way back into it.

There was a point in the 8th where Perez was teeing up on Chang, who was pretty much static. No surprise that after the Ohashi rematch (which followed this bout) he decided to pack it in. And the 9th is messy. 10 was like a high-paced version of the scrappy round before it. Some good action with both men getting their heads spun sideways by slashing right hands from in close. Both men take turns to unload in the 11th. Perez guts it out in the 12th, stunning Chang late in the roung and generally landing the better punches to snatch a close decision.

Will upload this later today so y'all that ain't seen it can share your thoughts and score what is a fast-paced, if scrappy for some parts, 12 round battle.
aye i've not watched this in ages, but i always thought it was a questionable decision as well myself.A good indicator of how far Chang had fallen by the end of his reign circa the Ohashi rematch classic.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:07 PM   #2877
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Impressive stuff from Gomez. He was a lot more composed and controlled than I was expecting him to be. Not an easy man to hit with your Sunday punch. A lot of his movement reminded me of Orlando Canizales, the way he would leap and step from side to side to bamboozle the opposition. Lopez was completely outmatched. I didn't see too much evidence to suggest he was among the greatest composite punchers of all time in that piece of footage though.
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Glad you enjoyed. You seen the Yum and Davila fights?
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:49 PM   #2879
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Gomez had really nice punching technique imo, but his power a bit overstated back during his KO run imo.He's no Bob Foster or Julian Jackson

He hit very hard, but no more so than a fair few fighters that didn't manage quite so pretty stoppage records.
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Gomez had really nice punching technique imo, but his power a bit overstated back during his KO run imo.He's no Bob Foster or Julian Jackson

He hit very hard, but no more so than a fair few fighters that didn't manage quite so pretty stoppage records.
I agree that he had nice punching technique, and it's actually hard to fault him in any one area based on the Lopez footage, but I constantly see his name being mentioned alongside the likes of Robinson, Patterson, Chavez, etc. in terms of combination punching ability. I've never seen him throw combinations like the way those guys did.

Olivares - Harada

Horrible beating. Harada had no defence at all, and literally every left hook Olivares threw seemed to land. The knockdown was a thing of beauty. The referee stopped the fight in the second round, and although Harada could have easily continued, he was on his way to getting stopped in brutal fashion anyway.

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