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Old 01-19-2013, 08:09 AM   #46
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Calling out a shot Roy Jones Junior and moaning that they didnt fight. Why would Roy Jones be scared of Steve Collins?

What will beating him at this point prove anyway?

Hill,Hopkins,Toney,Grifffin on his resume yet hes scared of Steve Collins? Give me a break! Oh and Reggie Johnson (Who beat Collins) aswell. Steve Collins is a bitter man and he should shut up and leave the legend that is Roy Jones Jrs name out of his mouth.


All those wins you mention we're when Roy Jones was a drugs cheat lets not forget.

When I get your mum sat on my face this is what she's gonna get

The fat mess!!!
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:55 AM   #47
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So...what part of that doesn't agree with what I said? Since I said the fight didn't happen because nobody in America cared about Collins and Jones could ignore him due to lack of public and network interest.
I don't disagree with any aspect of your post, I was merely endorsing it.

Are you not allowed to agree with someone on ESB?

(I'm new here)
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:13 AM   #48
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Are they fighting or what..?
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:16 AM   #49
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Collins had hard fights that he lost on points. He came to the ROI\UK and his style, boxing skill, stamina, chin and relentlessness were enough to beat Benn\Eubank twice and defend against a few other challengers who were pretty decent Middleweight\Supermiddleweight operators in UK\Europe.
Most famous for the man who beat Eubank first. He lost those three fights learning the trade.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:38 AM   #50
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roy jones like naz looked amazing against fighters that were in ore of him and intimidated. Collins or benn would have put it on him with no fear. not saying either would of beat him for me it's pick em fights but to say it wouldn't be competitive is bullshit, ask tarver.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:05 PM   #51
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Whats bitter about my thread? Just sick of Steve Collins talking shit
Your attitude! Let him have his fight, if you dont like it then dont watch it! Nobody's forcing you to pay any attention to it you clown.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:21 PM   #52
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Collins had hard fights that he lost on points. He came to the ROI\UK and his style, boxing skill, stamina, chin and relentlessness were enough to beat Benn\Eubank twice and defend against a few other challengers who were pretty decent Middleweight\Supermiddleweight operators in UK\Europe.
Most famous for the man who beat Eubank first. He lost those three fights learning the trade.
Eubank was burnt out, Benn was shot (McClellan fight ruined him) Carr/Brown were Middleweights (Collins was SUPERmiddle champ when he fought them) Seillier and Cummings were third tier. He then retired rather than fight Calzaghe.

He was a mediocrity like so many Barry Hearn & the WBO made 'champion' in the 90's

Jones would have embarrassed him, peak Eubank & Benn would have beaten him, as would Barkley, Nunn, McClellan, Toney.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:53 AM   #53
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If Collins fights Jones the big loser will be boxing.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:18 AM   #54
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Eubank was burnt out, Benn was shot (McClellan fight ruined him) Carr/Brown were Middleweights (Collins was SUPERmiddle champ when he fought them) Seillier and Cummings were third tier. He then retired rather than fight Calzaghe.

He was a mediocrity like so many Barry Hearn & the WBO made 'champion' in the 90's

Jones would have embarrassed him, peak Eubank & Benn would have beaten him, as would Barkley, Nunn, McClellan, Toney.
Eubank and Benn, both got beaten twice each, by Collins, they were so overrated (mainly in England) that it's laughable. I love the excuse that they were both shot because neither of them could beat him, and he was a pretty basic brawler. The Jones/Collins, Jones/Calzaghe etc fights should have happened back in the 90's, it'll prove **** all now.

Jones was the boss in his day, though he was juicing like ****, throughout his prime, without cheating, how good would he even have been then?...he could have been getting KO'd all the time, even back then.
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:57 AM   #55
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Eubank was burnt out, Benn was shot (McClellan fight ruined him) Carr/Brown were Middleweights (Collins was SUPERmiddle champ when he fought them) Seillier and Cummings were third tier. He then retired rather than fight Calzaghe.

He was a mediocrity like so many Barry Hearn & the WBO made 'champion' in the 90's

Jones would have embarrassed him, peak Eubank & Benn would have beaten him, as would Barkley, Nunn, McClellan, Toney.
Thus says another fool who knows nothing about boxing. Get back on the toilet,stupid person.
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:13 AM   #56
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Thus says another fool who knows nothing about boxing. Get back on the toilet,stupid person.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:39 PM   #57
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Personally would love to see this, something fascinating about the old pikey coming out of being retired for so long, and taking a crack at the most denuded chin in boxing today. Like waiting for a train crash to happen in slow motion.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:40 PM   #58
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Is it Adrien Broner?
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:25 PM   #59
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Put yourself in the mans shoes before you pass judgement eh lads.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:39 PM   #60
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To be fair, Collins was calling out a Prime Jones back in the 1990's as well. Jones ignored him, acted as if he didn't exist and wasn't chasing him and calling him out at almost every opportunity, and Jones got away with it because Collins wasn't a household name or a big draw in the US and the American public weren't clammering for the fight so Collins wasn't an opponent he had to face to save face nor was it a fight that would generate mega-bucks - in fact, the American networks ignored Collins as well and were saying that nobody wanted to fight Jones so he had to move up a division.

Collins wanted a fight with Prime Jones and never got it, Collins chased Jones for years only to get the cold shoulder. It was a fight he desperately wanted that he never got because Jones and the American networks just ignored him. It's unfinished business in his book so of course he'd go on about it.

Course the money helps as well.

And as for him calling out a shot Roy Jones, well, I think that's perfectly fine considering Collins himself hasn't been in a pro-fight since 1997 so he's shot as well.
yup, I listened to a Collins interview recently where he said he actually went into the ring to challenge him, & RJJ ignored him like he didnt exist. Steve was a fine fighter & a loveable guy but ultimately a nearly man & should be grateful RJJ didnt take him up on his offer, cos RJJ would have beaten him handily, just like he did to everyone else at the time.
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