the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

[Flea Man]

Anyway you should watch the highlights of the bout I mentioned.

Shame we don't get to see Castillo beating both (or Chucho's draw with Medel)

[natonic]

Originally Posted by natonic

I recall reading (unfortunately can't produce a source) where the ring for the second Sanchez - Lopez fight was something like 16'. But it's clearly small when you watch the fight. They appear to be in the middle of the ring, Sanchez takes a step back, and his back is nearly on the ropes. This is an amazing performance. It seems Sanchez could be very elusive when he chose to be.
He had zero fear of Nicky Perez.

First fight is definitely a 16 foot ring. It's mentioned on the broadcast.

[Flea Man]

Scoring some Chang fights I previously only observed to see what happened.

Jung Koo Chang Vs Jorge Cano

I lost my notepad due to a crash with the scorecard so only the last 3 rounds are 'live' but pretty sure I had it;

CHANG: 1; 2; 3; 4; 5; 8; 9; 10; 11;
CANO: 6; 7(+1); 12

CHANG 116-111 Cano (probably could've been much closer had Cano been scored a knockdown in the 11th...or was it the 10th, can't remember already which was close so could've been a 10-8. Ref' ruled it a push. Would've made it 114-112 as Chang had a point deducted in the 7th for holding round the back of the head. That actually looks more like a fair card.)

Cano was basic, straight punching, and a southpaw that bent at the waist and leaned forward a lot a lot so with Chang's style it was scrappy with a lot of head clashes. Chang was dazzling early, but faded late and had to go in limpet mode in the late rounds, but I still had him winning most of 'em, he was taking the edge off of Cano's blows as well as outworking him with a more diverse output. Not a great showing by any means.

[LittleRed]

I think JC Notastar held sweet pea to a draw. Almost. Maybe.

[Flea Man]

Michael Carbajal Vs Aber Barajas

Never seen this before, Carbajal's quick turnaround after the disappointment of the Chiquita rematch. He appears not to have trained hard and his man can't whack much but they both engage each other and try to work around each other's guard, Carbajal gets clipped as always and trudges forward, landing the heavier leather. In the 2nd, it essentially ends up target practice as Carbajal gets his man in bad positions against the ropes and has no worries opening up with both hands to head and body.

In the 3rd Carbajal cripples the journeyman to ball and body before leaving him crumpled with a right hand. He bravely gets up, but lays against the ropes again and gets pummeled in similar fashion.

[Addie]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Mihael Carbajal Vs Aber Barajas

Never seen this before, Carbajal's quick turnaround after the disappointment of the Chiquita rematch. He appears not to have trained hard and his man can't whack much but they both engage each other and try to work around each other's guard, Carbajal gets clipped as always and trudges forward, landing the heavier leather. In the 2nd, it essentially ends up target practice as Carbajal gets his man in bad positions against the ropes and has no worries opening up with both hands to head and body.

In the 3rd Carbajal cripples the journeyman to ball and body before leaving him crumpled with a right hand. He bravely gets up, but lays against the ropes again and gets pummeled in similar fashion.

Hardest-hitting Light Flyweight of all time?

[lora]

One of them.

The Mexican's Amado Ursua and German Torres are up there as well, but certainly torres wasn't as clean a KO artist, with his telegraphed clubbing punches he was more like a Foreman, Moon, Roldan or Mugabi type puncher.

[Flea Man]

Jung Koo Chang Vs Isidro Perez

CHANG: 3; 4;5; 9; 10; 11;
PEREZ: 1 (+1); 2; 6; 7; 8; 12

CHANG 113-114 PEREZ

Perez, sadly found dead in the last week, is thought by some to have been on the wrong end of the decision here. He puts in a performance here that resembles a drunk Ricardo Lopez with ADHD. He drops Chang with a looping left hook in the first that has the longtime champ' stunned for most of the round. The fight is on in the second when Chang stops surviving and tries to spring into life but he's still taking the damaging shots whilst offering little more than flailing and clinching himself.

3rd mainly Chang being Chang but he still gets caught with a couple of looping overhand rights behind the ear that seem to trouble him. Perez looks clueless whenever he gets caught in the blender. 4th is similar, but with Chang in control for more of it but also with more excitement as they punch it out more, with Chang getting the better of most of the exchanges and shutting Perez's offence down more, keeping his back to the ropes and diversifying his own attack. Chang lines Perez up and punches straight through the target with the right hand, but it wakes the challenger up and he sting and stuns Chang with a two fisted barrage coming off the ropes! Chang regains control and whilst he does the better work for most of the round Perez tries hard to keep up with him. Close rounds these.6th is again fiercely competitive, and Perez should've had a 10-8 for a knockdown that was ruled as a slip (maybe trod on Chang's foot?) but he hurt The Korean Hawk just after though, as in the earlier rounds Chang worked his way back into it.

There was a point in the 8th where Perez was teeing up on Chang, who was pretty much static. No surprise that after the Ohashi rematch (which followed this bout) he decided to pack it in. And the 9th is messy. 10 was like a high-paced version of the scrappy round before it. Some good action with both men getting their heads spun sideways by slashing right hands from in close. Both men take turns to unload in the 11th. Perez guts it out in the 12th, stunning Chang late in the roung and generally landing the better punches to snatch a close decision.

Will upload this later today so y'all that ain't seen it can share your thoughts and score what is a fast-paced, if scrappy for some parts, 12 round battle.

[Addie]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Jung Koo Chang Vs Isidro Perez

CHANG: 3; 4;5; 9; 10; 11;
PEREZ: 1 (+1); 2; 6; 7; 8; 12

CHANG 113-114 PEREZ

Perez, sadly found dead in the last week, is thought by some to have been on the wrong end of the decision here. He puts in a performance here that resembles a drunk Ricardo Lopez with ADHD. He drops Chang with a looping left hook in the first that has the longtime champ' stunned for most of the round. The fight is on in the second when Chang stops surviving and tries to spring into life but he's still taking the damaging shots whilst offering little more than flailing and clinching himself.

3rd mainly Chang being Chang but he still gets caught with a couple of looping overhand rights behind the ear that seem to trouble him. Perez looks clueless whenever he gets caught in the blender. 4th is similar, but with Chang in control for more of it but also with more excitement as they punch it out more, with Chang getting the better of most of the exchanges and shutting Perez's offence down more, keeping his back to the ropes and diversifying his own attack. Chang lines Perez up and punches straight through the target with the right hand, but it wakes the challenger up and he sting and stuns Chang with a two fisted barrage coming off the ropes! Chang regains control and whilst he does the better work for most of the round Perez tries hard to keep up with him. Close rounds these.6th is again fiercely competitive, and Perez should've had a 10-8 for a knockdown that was ruled as a slip (maybe trod on Chang's foot?) but he hurt The Korean Hawk just after though, as in the earlier rounds Chang worked his way back into it.

There was a point in the 8th where Perez was teeing up on Chang, who was pretty much static. No surprise that after the Ohashi rematch (which followed this bout) he decided to pack it in. And the 9th is messy. 10 was like a high-paced version of the scrappy round before it. Some good action with both men getting their heads spun sideways by slashing right hands from in close. Both men take turns to unload in the 11th. Perez guts it out in the 12th, stunning Chang late in the roung and generally landing the better punches to snatch a close decision.

Will upload this later today so y'all that ain't seen it can share your thoughts and score what is a fast-paced, if scrappy for some parts, 12 round battle.

I just downloaded this myself.

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by Addie

Hardest-hitting Light Flyweight of all time?

Or German Torres.

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by lora

One of them.

The Mexican's Amado Ursua and German Torres are up there as well, but certainly torres wasn't as clean a KO artist, with his telegraphed clubbing punches he was more like a Foreman, Moon, Roldan or Mugabi type puncher.

Yeah, Ursua as well of course.

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by Addie

I just downloaded this myself.

Oh, I've got it on DVD, what do you use?

[Addie]

Originally Posted by flea man

oh, i've got it on dvd, what do you use?

A famous torrent site I'm sure you've heard of.

[Flea Man]

Addie, uploaded this with you in mind.

[Addie]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Addie, uploaded this with you in mind.

Watching now. Then I'll continue my education of Olivares.