Chad Dawson is making a big mistake...again!

[PityTheFool]

Originally Posted by MrMagic

Yeah PTF, that might be true.

I do however think that Chad Dawson has looked his best under Eddie Mustafa Muhammad.

I can go and look if need be,but how did he handle leaving Eddie the first time?
Did he do it the right way or the usual way?

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by PityTheFool

I can go and look if need be,but how did he handle leaving Eddie the first time?
Did he do it the right way or the usual way?

You heard about Ray doing a meet and greet tour in UK?

[MrMagic]

Originally Posted by PityTheFool

I can go and look if need be,but how did he handle leaving Eddie the first time?
Did he do it the right way or the usual way?

I don't know if he left on good terms.

I think Mayweather Snr was the one who got them together, and Mayweather Snr left Chad saying he was "a retard".


Regardless, him switching trainer ever so often just hints there are interior troubles, most likely with himself.

[SweetHome_Bama]

I'm not of the opinion that a trainer MAKES the fighter, if anything it is the reverse. I think Chad can be successful with any trainer because he is that good.

That being said, I think he is mentally unfocused sometimes and that might be linked to his ADD.

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by PityTheFool

I can go and look if need be,but how did he handle leaving Eddie the first time?
Did he do it the right way or the usual way?

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[MrMagic]

Originally Posted by SweetHome_Bama

I'm not of the opinion that a trainer MAKES the fighter, if anything it is the reverse. I think Chad can be successful with any trainer because he is that good.

That being said, I think he is mentally unfocused sometimes and that might be linked to his ADD.

Eddie Mustafa has all his fighters in superb conditioning, he has a notorious reputation at Johnny Toccos for drilling his fighters to DIG DEEP.


Thats why you very often see his fighters turn it up in the later rounds.

[Emeritus]

Originally Posted by PityTheFool

The one good thing for Ice is that he said he always knew it might happen and the first loss would see him thrown under a bus.
Still a real shitehouse move in my book,and I'm not just saying that because it's Ice.

I think he is just a shitty character full stop. No trainer will ever be good enough for Chad, I mean what exactly did Ice do wrong to be treated like that?

Have a little respect and give the man a call or even return he texts or whatever!

It was Chad who got knocked out in sparring and it was Chad who said he could make 168lbs then Chad who tried to back out and said he wanted a catch weight. The Chad who gave up during the fight vs Ward.

It was all for the taking and he folded.

[PityTheFool]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

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Thanks Dino,but my excursion budget is going on a trip down to London for Burns-Vasquez.

I missed Ray's visit to Glasgow last time due to circumstances way beyond my control.
Along with U2 tickets that were already paid for and I wasn't even able to sell them.
If Ray comes up here though,I'm in.

[PityTheFool]

Originally Posted by MrMagic

Eddie Mustafa has all his fighters in superb conditioning, he has a notorious reputation at Johnny Toccos for drilling his fighters to DIG DEEP.


Thats why you very often see his fighters turn it up in the later rounds.

EDIT
Given that there's not much to trouble him at 175,I think it'll be a while before Eddie cops his wrath again.

Originally Posted by Emeritus

I think he is just a shitty character full stop. No trainer will ever be good enough for Chad, I mean what exactly did Ice do wrong to be treated like that?

Have a little respect and give the man a call or even return he texts or whatever!

It was Chad who got knocked out in sparring and it was Chad who said he could make 168lbs then Chad who tried to back out and said he wanted a catch weight. The Chad who gave up during the fight vs Ward.

It was all for the taking and he folded.

Watch Ice in the corner before the ninth(I think)
It's one of the most memorable moments ever from a corner/trainer for me.
And funny how things were great after he beat Bernard.

I came to like Chad,and I never ever questioned his ability,but I'm done with him now.
I hope he knows he's a fan down now!

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by MrMagic

I think Eddie Mustafa Muhammad had him in superior shape.

I like Iceman Scully, but I'm probably going to say Eddie Mustafa is a better trainer looking in from the outside.

[MrPR]

Chad Dawson has the talent and imo Freddie Roach would turn him into an excellent fighter .

[PityTheFool]

Originally Posted by MrPR

Chad Dawson has the talent and imo Freddie Roach would turn him into an excellent fighter .

I'm fairly confident that there's a good reason he hasn't been with Fred already.
And I suspect it's got nothing to do with California.

Chad made a few snide remarks about John being in a bad situation,because he's (Chad) is at the top of his game and having fought some of the greatest fighters.

Bullshit! John guided him to his most significant victory,and it's his fucking laziness in the ring that holds him back.

And Ice had the good grace to say that EMM was as good a choice as anyone.

Integrity.You can't teach that Chad and John has it in spades.
Ice is well shot of him.

[des3995]

Originally Posted by Emeritus

The problem is Chad no one else.

Mayweather Sr told everyone time ago but because of who he is (a Mayweather) no one wanted to listen.

The boy is talented however he IS mentally weak and un-dedicated and whenever things don't go his way he will ALWAYS fold and will ALWAYS have an excuse.

He's been a disappointment. He has/had excellent skills, but seems to lack the innards to go along with them.

[SJS19]

I'd love to get hold of Dawson for two months.

[PityTheFool]

Originally Posted by SJS19

I'd love to get hold of Dawson for two months.

What would your program be?