Mikey Garcia vs. Orlando Salido & Gennady Golovkin vs. Gabriel Rosado & undercard RBR - Page 80

ButtBread · 01-20-2013, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tliang1000

two games i got robbed. draw and over

Me too on the over. Was feeling like a genius since I switched sides, reasoning that Mikey wouldn't overwhelm Salido even if he hurt him.

Thought it had been about the worst case scenario for an over bet, but it was still looking good. "No, THIS is the worst case scenario."

Seamus · 01-20-2013, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SweetHome_Bama

Only problem I have with Mikey is that he doesn't have that killer instinct. He should have finished Salido in the 2nd.

Notice how in his interview he kept talking about he would rather it have gone 12, not he would rather he finished him. Not a lot of urgency in him but that's partly what makes him so dangerous. A bit ice cold and calculated, composed and paced.

He's got masterful skills, tho.

KO KIDD · 01-20-2013, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SweetHome_Bama

How did he even know the scores? I'd laugh if Juan took his advice and lost the decision

SugarShane_24 · 01-20-2013, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KO KIDD

How did he even know the scores? I'd laugh if Juan took his advice and lost the decision

And another thing is, that time Marquez probably not yet understanding english.

SweetHome_Bama · 01-20-2013, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Seamus

Notice how in his interview he kept talking about he would rather it have gone 12, not he would rather he finished him. Not a lot of urgency in him but that's partly what makes him so dangerous. A bit ice cold and calculated, composed and paced.

He's got masterful skills, tho.

It is good to a degree, but sometimes on the elite level, it will come back and bite you in the ass. He has to learn to capitalize when he has a person hurt as bad as he did.

Reppin501 · 01-20-2013, 12:35 AM

At what point did Salido "bother" Mikey? I assume you mean the brief points in which Mikey wasn't completely busting Salido up? Even at that point, Salido's "best" moments he was at best breaking even. That doesn't allow him to make up ground, that just slowed down how much ground he was losing.

SweetHome_Bama · 01-20-2013, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Reppin501

At what point did Salido "bother" Mikey? I assume you mean the brief points in which Mikey wasn't completely busting Salido up? Even at that point, Salido's "best" moments he was at best breaking even. That doesn't allow him to make up ground, that just slowed down how much ground he was losing.

Probably when he broke his nose and now has disrupted his fight schedule because he has to wait for a injury to heal

saul_ir34 · 01-20-2013, 12:36 AM

Listen to all the haters now on Mikey. Saying Salido was coming on and Mikey quit because of it.

Dude had 5 KDs and won every single round. He did get caught with some big shots and never once looked hurt.

nervousxtian · 01-20-2013, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SweetHome_Bama

It is good to a degree, but sometimes on the elite level, it will come back and bite you in the ass. He has to learn to capitalize when he has a person hurt as bad as he did.

Exactly.

There was a specific round where Mikey let Salido completely off the hook 3 times after hurting.. there was a point where Salido looked like he was about to quit.. and this was early in the fight where Mikey landed a huge shot and just backed off... then right near the end of that round he actually landed 2 shots and turned away thinking he put him down when Salido didn't go down.

It was bizarre.. never seen someone just keep letting a guy back into a fight for no fucking reason.

lobk · 01-20-2013, 12:37 AM

You need killer instinct at the elite level because guys at this level don't quit. Garcia needs to realize this or he is going to learn the hard way with a lost.

Reppin501 · 01-20-2013, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SweetHome_Bama

It is good to a degree, but sometimes on the elite level, it will come back and bite you in the ass. He has to learn to capitalize when he has a person hurt as bad as he did.

I agree, I would have liked to see him finish him, but respect why he didnt and get where he's coming from. It's like Taylor vs Pavlik, if you don't finish the guy...who knows what might happen.

Elyblueaj · 01-20-2013, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by El Greeno

England's Gavin Rees

Wales' Gavin Rees

lobk · 01-20-2013, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by saul_ir34

Listen to all the haters now on Mikey. Saying Salido was coming on and Mikey quit because of it.

Dude had 5 KDs and won every single round. He did get caught with some big shots and never once looked hurt.

I'm not knocking Garcia but did you see the interview? Garcia even said he should have continued and should have. He then caught himself and offered the rematch.

saul_ir34 · 01-20-2013, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KO KIDD

How did he even know the scores? I'd laugh if Juan took his advice and lost the decision

I believe this was one of those stupid fights with open scoring.

Sometimes I wonder though if the open scoring would not be a bad choice. Imagine the fans knowing a fighter is clearly getting robbed. I can see them putting the pressure on the judges by booing them and making them think twice about silently robbing the fighters.

KO KIDD · 01-20-2013, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by saul_ir34

Listen to all the haters now on Mikey. Saying Salido was coming on and Mikey quit because of it.

Dude had 5 KDs and won every single round. He did get caught with some big shots and never once looked hurt.

I criticized the stoppage not out of hate for Garcia or a blind belief that Salido was gonna win but that it was just something id never seen

an accidental butt breaks a nose and its over, it was just disappointing

I wanted to see how the young Garcia would handle a cagey veteran who wouldnt quit and i wanted to see Salido get his chance to soldier on as he has paid his dues thru a long career

01-20-2013, 12:35 AM	#1191
Reppin501 The People's Champ East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 14,483 vCash: 75	Re: Mikey Garcia vs. Orlando Salido & Gennady Golovkin vs. Gabriel Rosado & undercard At what point did Salido "bother" Mikey? I assume you mean the brief points in which Mikey wasn't completely busting Salido up? Even at that point, Salido's "best" moments he was at best breaking even. That doesn't allow him to make up ground, that just slowed down how much ground he was losing.
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01-20-2013, 12:36 AM	#1193
saul_ir34 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 11,206 vCash: 675	Re: Mikey Garcia vs. Orlando Salido & Gennady Golovkin vs. Gabriel Rosado & undercard Listen to all the haters now on Mikey. Saying Salido was coming on and Mikey quit because of it. Dude had 5 KDs and won every single round. He did get caught with some big shots and never once looked hurt.
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01-20-2013, 12:37 AM	#1195
lobk Original ESB Member ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,264 vCash: 75	Re: Mikey Garcia vs. Orlando Salido & Gennady Golovkin vs. Gabriel Rosado & undercard You need killer instinct at the elite level because guys at this level don't quit. Garcia needs to realize this or he is going to learn the hard way with a lost.
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