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Old 01-20-2013, 01:39 AM   #1171
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How did he even know the scores? I'd laugh if Juan took his advice and lost the decision
I believe this was one of those stupid fights with open scoring.

Sometimes I wonder though if the open scoring would not be a bad choice. Imagine the fans knowing a fighter is clearly getting robbed. I can see them putting the pressure on the judges by booing them and making them think twice about silently robbing the fighters.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:40 AM   #1172
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Listen to all the haters now on Mikey. Saying Salido was coming on and Mikey quit because of it.

Dude had 5 KDs and won every single round. He did get caught with some big shots and never once looked hurt.
I criticized the stoppage not out of hate for Garcia or a blind belief that Salido was gonna win but that it was just something id never seen

an accidental butt breaks a nose and its over, it was just disappointing

I wanted to see how the young Garcia would handle a cagey veteran who wouldnt quit and i wanted to see Salido get his chance to soldier on as he has paid his dues thru a long career
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:41 AM   #1173
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I'm not knocking Garcia but did you see the interview? Garcia even said he should have continued and should have. He then caught himself and offered the rematch.
I fully agree with it continuing but to say that he took the easy way out because Salido was coming on is non sense.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:42 AM   #1174
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wow...WTF?
Yup. Good ole Lawrence Cole. Son of the Texas state athletic commission president(I think his father is someone important). Its probably on YouTube. I think he was suspended for it but not long.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:43 AM   #1175
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You need killer instinct at the elite level because guys at this level don't quit. Garcia needs to realize this or he is going to learn the hard way with a lost.
Bro I got news for you...Mikey is the "Elite level", not sure who you think he's gonna fight that is so much better but the dude is gonna do what the **** he wants. There may be two three guys on earth (in that weight range) who take the ass whipping Salido just took. That said, there is some validity to overall idea, but Mikey is and is going to be just fine.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:43 AM   #1176
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I believe this was one of those stupid fights with open scoring.

Sometimes I wonder though if the open scoring would not be a bad choice. Imagine the fans knowing a fighter is clearly getting robbed. I can see them putting the pressure on the judges by booing them and making them think twice about silently robbing the fighters.
not if its in the dudes back yard theyd be cheering harder

I dont like open scoring it ruins it for me as a fan and can change fight, a guy may coast rather than fight and keep it interesting (Mormeck vs Bell II)

Im under the belief the judges will be bad know matter when the score is read, now you know your gonna get robbed in the 8th rather than the 12th
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:44 AM   #1177
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I fully agree with it continuing but to say that he took the easy way out because Salido was coming on is non sense.
I'm not blaming him. He's young and following his corner's advise who is also his family.

Salido wasn't coming on. I don't believe that either but I do believe Salido had a punchers chance had the fight continued. He was landing.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:45 AM   #1178
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You need killer instinct at the elite level because guys at this level don't quit. Garcia needs to realize this or he is going to learn the hard way with a lost.
You know if the fight would have continued mikey would just keep getting stronger... the inevitable is gonna happen. Mikey dont need to rush ****, or get anyone out there early, it will happen sooner or later... any other man would have quit but we are talking salido.... amazing recuperating skills.

Lesser fighters would have been stunned with those shots, Salido just gets a quick KD and comes back to fight not many fighters operate like him.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:45 AM   #1179
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I'm not knocking Garcia but did you see the interview? Garcia even said he should have continued and should have. He then caught himself and offered the rematch.
Dude the doctor stopped the fight...period.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:46 AM   #1180
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Mikey is good and Salido is one tough mother****er.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:46 AM   #1181
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I fully agree with it continuing but to say that he took the easy way out because Salido was coming on is non sense.
Salido was "coming on". The last two rounds had been his best and he still had 4 rounds to go. Saying Garcia quit is very disrespectul but he did take the prudent way out.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:47 AM   #1182
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HBO is sick. After the round they cut to Garcia's corner and the second Robert Garcia says "that was a headbutt right they cut over the Salido's corner after less then 9 seconds and they never go back to garvia's corner until after the round starts. We never see what Garcia says to his trainer. Shady **** that **** is usually programmed to have equal time between each corner.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:47 AM   #1183
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Bro I got news for you...Mikey is the "Elite level", not sure who you think he's gonna fight that is so much better but the dude is gonna do what the **** he wants. There may be two three guys on earth (in that weight range) who take the ass whipping Salido just took. That said, there is some validity to overall idea, but Mikey is and is going to be just fine.


exactly my point, Gamboa couldn't even stop the dude... Salido is a hard ass mother****er that not many can take that type of sustained punishment and keep going... if it continued I think mikey would have been the first to ever lay him out or TKO him.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:48 AM   #1184
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Dude the doctor stopped the fight...period.
Nope the doctor asked him if he could continue and Robert said no. mikey also said no and complained about his nose.

LIke he said in the post fight interview he should have continued.

I won't say he should have, but I do believe he could have and he didn't have to stop the fight.

That being said I'm not going to knock him doing so, he is young and this was his big step up.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:49 AM   #1185
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Bro I got news for you...Mikey is the "Elite level", not sure who you think he's gonna fight that is so much better but the dude is gonna do what the **** he wants. There may be two three guys on earth (in that weight range) who take the ass whipping Salido just took. That said, there is some validity to overall idea, but Mikey is and is going to be just fine.

? Where the **** did I say he wasn't at this weight? What I stated was he needs to finish guys. Salido may not be elite but he's a top tier at the weight. Was not goign to quit and kept looking for the miracle KO. **** happens in boxing and if the ref didn't see that headbutt tonight Salido would have won. None of this would have happened if Garcia finished Salido when he had the chance. Thats all I'm saying
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