Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano - Page 62

dinovelvet · 01-20-2013, 06:08 PM

Luf, Marciano is an official top 10 ATG.

Wlad is not a great right now as he is still active and could fail to fight the up and coming top guys or suffer another loss.

lufcrazy · 01-20-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Luf, Marciano is an official top 10 ATG.

Wlad is not a great right now as he is still active and could fail to fight the up and coming top guys or suffer another loss.

there is no official top 10 dino. Lists are wholly subjective and opinion based.

My opinion is the two are greats and Wlad would win a fight between these two.

LittleRed · 01-20-2013, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by orriray59

Ever hear of an Ad Hominem argument?

Is that when someone throws corn at you?

dinovelvet · 01-20-2013, 06:29 PM

He features in practically every credible top 10 HW ATG list and Wlad does not.

As of now he has not done enough to be labelled a top 10 ATG. If he fails to fight AP and gets stripped , that a step down the legacy ladder. In all honestly how can you claim it isnt.
Im a huge Ward fan but am objective enough to admit that one fight a year and being injury prone will effect his legacy.

lufcrazy · 01-20-2013, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dinovelvet

He features in practically every credible top 10 HW ATG list and Wlad does not.

As of now he has not done enough to be labelled a top 10 ATG. If he fails to fight AP and gets stripped , that a step down the legacy ladder. In all honestly how can you claim it isnt.
Im a huge Ward fan but am objective enough to admit that one fight a year and being injury prone will effect his legacy.

Like I said, lists are subjective and opinion based.

Right now i class both as greats. Right now I think Wlad beats Rocky.

Ofcourse it's a step down, like when Holmes refused to fight Page and got stripped. If he begins to sit on his title like Holmes, Dempsey, Johnson and Willard did he'll rightly be criticised. Would that be enough to significantly detract from his achievements to date, time will tell.

dyna · 01-21-2013, 09:51 AM

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It's official Luf, you can't argue your point anymore.

Dinovelvet said it's official.

I think Dinovelvet first started out as a troll but slowly he began believing his own lies.
Now he's a grade S retard.

dinovelvet · 01-21-2013, 10:02 AM

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I think Dinovelvet first started out as a troll but slowly he began believing his own lies.
Now he's a grade S retard.

Im a troll cos i have a different opinion than you? Fuckin infant, log off.

dyna · 01-21-2013, 10:43 AM

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Im a troll cos i have a different opinion than you? Fuckin infant, log off.

You're not a troll.(anymore)

You're just retarded, constantly trying to "destroy" Wladimir with attacks based on Wladimir being a "pussy" , a "bum" etc.

You're easily the worst poster to ever set steps in the classic forum.
And on the overal lists you're second only to Charlie Z

dinovelvet · 01-21-2013, 10:55 AM

Your as bad as vladimir23 and he is the biggest figure of ridicule on this forum. All you do here is follow people around who talk out against k2 and generally act like a weirdo.
You're throwing a hissy fit because im not a fan of your fighter. Man up you child. Debate box or piss off.

dyna · 01-21-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Your as bad as vladimir23 and he is the biggest figure of ridicule on this forum. All you do here is follow people around who talk out against k2 and generally act like a weirdo.
You're throwing a hissy fit because im not a fan of your fighter. Man up you child. Debate box or piss off.

Viel Erfolg mit deine persönliche Rache gegen die K2 Brüdern

Also I'm not a Wlad fan either, but boring someone doesn't exclude them from being one of the greatest.

lufcrazy · 01-21-2013, 11:02 AM

I'm no fan of wlad I was praying haye would spark him. I hope fury or price does also, intact anyone put in the ring against him I'd root for.

I just don't envision Rocky beating him.

dinovelvet · 01-21-2013, 11:19 AM

Why are you both not a fan of him?

lufcrazy · 01-21-2013, 11:25 AM

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Why are you both not a fan of him?

I always root for the underdog and that's never him these days.

dyna · 01-21-2013, 11:33 AM

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I always root for the underdog and that's never him these days.

Certainly this, and Wladimir can be described as a much more effective Ruiz.

lufcrazy · 01-21-2013, 11:38 AM

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Certainly this, and Wladimir can be described as a much more effective Ruiz.

Even Ruiz fought inside against Valuev.

Wlad isn't good to watch it's jab and grab all the way. I'd love an all action fighter like arreola to do him but he's gone the wbc route.

01-20-2013, 06:08 PM	#916
dinovelvet Up Top To The Head East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 5,837 vCash: 910	Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano Luf, Marciano is an official top 10 ATG. Wlad is not a great right now as he is still active and could fail to fight the up and coming top guys or suffer another loss.
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01-20-2013, 06:29 PM	#919
dinovelvet Up Top To The Head East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 5,837 vCash: 910	Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano He features in practically every credible top 10 HW ATG list and Wlad does not. As of now he has not done enough to be labelled a top 10 ATG. If he fails to fight AP and gets stripped , that a step down the legacy ladder. In all honestly how can you claim it isnt. Im a huge Ward fan but am objective enough to admit that one fight a year and being injury prone will effect his legacy.
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01-21-2013, 10:55 AM	#924
dinovelvet Up Top To The Head East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 5,837 vCash: 910	Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano Your as bad as vladimir23 and he is the biggest figure of ridicule on this forum. All you do here is follow people around who talk out against k2 and generally act like a weirdo. You're throwing a hissy fit because im not a fan of your fighter. Man up you child. Debate box or piss off.
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lufcrazy requiescat in pace East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: England, Up North Posts: 22,723 vCash: 330	Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano I'm no fan of wlad I was praying haye would spark him. I hope fury or price does also, intact anyone put in the ring against him I'd root for. I just don't envision Rocky beating him.
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01-21-2013, 11:19 AM	#927
dinovelvet Up Top To The Head East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 5,837 vCash: 910	Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano Why are you both not a fan of him?
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