Just how bad was Haglar robbed if at all against SRL? - Page 13

TheSouthpaw · 01-20-2013, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill1234

Marvin was really on the slide by that point. He'd been declining from the Roberto Duran fight on or so. At first it was slow, but it really was showcased in his fights with Mugabi and Leonard. It'd have shown more against Hearns had it not been such a street fight.

No doubt it wasnt the Haglar we were used to..Still a pretty good match
His fight with Hearns was just that..A street fight!..

Waynegrade · 01-20-2013, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightcrawler

are you really asking that whoever wins the fight should get the decision

who the fuck else should win the fight?!

That SHOULD happen, but thats not the reality ...

Waynegrade · 01-20-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by salsanchezfan

Utter crap. Thank god you're not a boxing judge.

Seriously, what the fuck......

Hey rocket scientist, It isn`t what I am saying ,but bxoxing scoring is fucked, thats the reality ! Look at some of the judges working the sport now, wake up !!!!!!!!!!

Waynegrade · 01-20-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lora

Ya gotta take it frum da champ

Cuz da champ is da one wit da integrity, come up da hard way an represent evrthin good 'bout this sport

How you jus gon take a man's livelyhood away pinchin' points on da backfoot?How you look at yersel in the mirror after it, eh chump

Great dialect !!

TheSouthpaw · 01-20-2013, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Waynegrade

Hey rocket scientist, It isn`t what I am saying ,but bxoxing scoring is fucked, thats the reality ! Look at some of the judges working the sport now, wake up !!!!!!!!!!

You mean our prestige loyal pool of judges we have that are either senile, dont speak engish, or a woman that dont know shit about boxing!?....Huh!..I dont see the problem!...

MAG1965 · 01-20-2013, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSouthpaw

No doubt it wasnt the Haglar we were used to..Still a pretty good match
His fight with Hearns was just that..A street fight!..

The Hearns fight was his last fight where he was active and fit to fight anyone. He was not a fighter who should be inactive.

TheSouthpaw · 01-20-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MAG1965

The Hearns fight was his last fight where he was active and fit to fight anyone. He was not a fighter who should be inactive.

He did decline a bit after that but I dont really remember him being that inactive..i could be wrong but I will say the Leonard fight probably came just in time for him.

Bill1234 · 01-20-2013, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSouthpaw

He did decline a bit after that but I dont really remember him being that inactive..i could be wrong but I will say the Leonard fight probably came just in time for him.

He was very inactive by Hagler standards.

He fought Hearns in April, 1985, Mugabi in March, 1986, and Leonard in April, 1987. 3 fights in 3 years for Hagler was an all time low activity in his career.

TheSouthpaw · 01-20-2013, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill1234

He was very inactive by Hagler standards.

He fought Hearns in April, 1985, Mugabi in March, 1986, and Leonard in April, 1987. 3 fights in 3 years for Hagler was an all time low activity in his career.

Ya!...I guess your right ..those are some pretty big gaps!..

TheSouthpaw · 01-20-2013, 11:35 PM

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Fab 4 Documentary and fight footage...Pretty cool!

Waynegrade · 01-22-2013, 09:25 AM

I definitely feel MMH fought the wrong fight against SRL. Giving away the first 4 rds, while trying to outbox SRL, orthodox. And, not truly taking it to SRL , southpaw, cutting off the ring, and taking it inside to SRL. He did some of it later on in the fight. But, he kind of left the door open for Ray by not fighting to HIS strengths. I didn`t feel it was a definitive win, some rds close to call. However, SRL worked the rds carefully, lots ofg

boxing savvy and squeaked out the decision. I think if they had gotten the rematch, we would have seen a different Hagler, even though he was near the end of the line. Goody told me they pushed hard for the rematch, but when they realized it wasn`t happening, Hagler packed his gloves ...

Bill1234 · 01-22-2013, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Waynegrade

I definitely feel MMH fought the wrong fight against SRL. Giving away the first 4 rds, while trying to outbox SRL, orthodox. And, not truly taking it to SRL , southpaw, cutting off the ring, and taking it inside to SRL. He did some of it later on in the fight. But, he kind of left the door open for Ray by not fighting to HIS strengths. I didn`t feel it was a definitive win, some rds close to call. However, SRL worked the rds carefully, lots ofg

boxing savvy and squeaked out the decision. I think if they had gotten the rematch, we would have seen a different Hagler, even though he was near the end of the line. Goody told me they pushed hard for the rematch, but when they realized it wasn`t happening, Hagler packed his gloves ...

I've heard Hagler was borderline mentally unstable with how badly he wanted and pushed for the rematch, but I think Leonard knew he caught lightning in a bottle that night where everything came together perfectly for him to squeek by with a razor thin decision.

lbarrow · 01-22-2013, 01:35 PM

leonard definitely won this fight for me. hagler didnt do enough. it wasclose but. was leonard all day

TheSouthpaw · 01-22-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill1234

I've heard Hagler was borderline mentally unstable with how badly he wanted and pushed for the rematch, but I think Leonard knew he caught lightning in a bottle that night where everything came together perfectly for him to squeek by with a razor thin decision.

Haglar goin crazy!?...I guess so..Im sure to this day Marvin is beating himself up for his performance. He probably would never admit it but he has to know he went about that fight all wrong. And hes had to live with it 20 somethiong years

MagnaNasakki · 01-22-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSouthpaw

Haglar goin crazy!?...I guess so..Im sure to this day Marvin is beating himself up for his performance. He probably would never admit it but he has to know he went about that fight all wrong. And hes had to live with it 20 somethiong years

Boxers tend to be PRETTY self-aware. I've never met one who wasn't reasonably frank about his career in private.

I can all but guarantee Marvin knows EXACTLY what he would have done different.

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01-22-2013, 09:25 AM	#191
Waynegrade Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,550 vCash: 1000	Re: Just how bad was Haglar robbed if at all against SRL? I definitely feel MMH fought the wrong fight against SRL. Giving away the first 4 rds, while trying to outbox SRL, orthodox. And, not truly taking it to SRL , southpaw, cutting off the ring, and taking it inside to SRL. He did some of it later on in the fight. But, he kind of left the door open for Ray by not fighting to HIS strengths. I didn`t feel it was a definitive win, some rds close to call. However, SRL worked the rds carefully, lots ofg boxing savvy and squeaked out the decision. I think if they had gotten the rematch, we would have seen a different Hagler, even though he was near the end of the line. Goody told me they pushed hard for the rematch, but when they realized it wasn`t happening, Hagler packed his gloves ...
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01-22-2013, 01:35 PM	#193
lbarrow Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 579 vCash: 1000	Re: Just how bad was Haglar robbed if at all against SRL? leonard definitely won this fight for me. hagler didnt do enough. it wasclose but. was leonard all day
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