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Old 01-20-2013, 11:25 PM   #31
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kinda pissed Kelly is retiring honestly the more i think about it
I feel ya'.


After all those pull outs and shit, getting fired back up for one more run....with the new shit shakin' goin' out Cali to join up with Coach Garcia and all that, only to end with this.....


But, I'm sure he and his advisors and what not know the score better than us.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:25 PM   #32
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Pavlik by KO
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:28 PM   #33
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I feel ya'.


After all those pull outs and shit, getting fired back up for one more run....with the new shit shakin' goin' out Cali to join up with Coach Garcia and all that, only to end with this.....


But, I'm sure he and his advisors and what not know the score better than us.
I watched his 2007 run today...

Forgot how much fun it was watching him rise from a relative unhyped unknown to contender to champion. Brutalized Zertuche, Miranda, and Taylor to take the crown.

Sad how quickly he fizzled out and lost the plot
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:36 PM   #34
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I watched his 2007 run today...

Forgot how much fun it was watching him rise from a relative unhyped unknown to contender to champion. Brutalized Zertuche, Miranda, and Taylor to take the crown.

Sad how quickly he fizzled out and lost the plot
I hear ya.


That '07 run was straight up magic. One of the best times I've ever had as a fan of any sport.

'07 was one hell of a year for boxing anyways......
Pavlik vs Zertuche
Pavlik vs Miranda
Pavlik vs Taylor
Mayweather vs Oscar
Mayweather vs Hatton
Judah vs Cotto in MSG
Calzaghe vs Kessler (iirc)
Izzy vs Rafa
Hatton vs Castillo
Peter vs Toney
and lots more I can't think of right now
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:38 PM   #35
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No poll just analysis and argument. Pavlik from the Miranda fight v. Gennady. I really like GGG in and out of the ring. Not a whole lot not to like. Both dudes can crack and both aren't hard to find.

Seen a lot of gennady and junior comments so I figured I'd take this out for a stroll. Would have been a great fight IMO. I don't see many guys standing in front of Kelly at MW and taking his right but GGG is a beast.

Thought? I'll take Pavlik at around 10

Pavlik was overrated. GGG by doctor stoppage.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:39 PM   #36
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Running into Bernard Hopkins was something that really messed up his psyche and career in general.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:39 PM   #37
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I watched his 2007 run today...

Forgot how much fun it was watching him rise from a relative unhyped unknown to contender to champion. Brutalized Zertuche, Miranda, and Taylor to take the crown.

Sad how quickly he fizzled out and lost the plot
Zuniga Zertuche Mckart Miranda and Taylor had never been stopped. You're right it all ended too quick. Hopefully history is kinder to him than the present though he's brought a lot on himself
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:42 PM   #38
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Pavlik was overrated. GGG by doctor stoppage.
Was underrated at one point noob. Manny Steward was literally laughing at him prior to the Taylor fight.
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:12 AM   #39
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I feel ya'.


After all those pull outs and shit, getting fired back up for one more run....with the new shit shakin' goin' out Cali to join up with Coach Garcia and all that, only to end with this.....


But, I'm sure he and his advisors and what not know the score better than us.
He is at a tough age to not be around his family. His kids are still pretty young. I wondered about that and just saw a piece on yahoo sports where he says that directly. If he still trained in Ytown it MIGHT be a different story. Don't know but that played a big role I think.
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:39 AM   #40
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I dont see ggg stopping Pavlik but i could see Pavlik stopping ggg
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:41 AM   #41
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Was Kelly considered prime when Hopkins thrashed him? Just wondering.
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:49 AM   #42
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Was Kelly considered prime when Hopkins thrashed him? Just wondering.

Yes.

There was certainly no reason in the world to think other wise. He'd just come off the 2 Taylor fights and had fought Gary Lockett.

Then came the decision to climb two divisions and fight Hopkins
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:21 AM   #43
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Yes.

There was certainly no reason in the world to think other wise. He'd just come off the 2 Taylor fights and had fought Gary Lockett.

Then came the decision to climb two divisions and fight Hopkins
Yea, that was silly.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:33 AM   #44
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Yea, that was silly.

Hated it.

I made like one post when the news came out along the lines of "I don't know about this shit fellas " .....shit I didn't even watch the fight and have never REALLY watched it to this day.

**** it.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:38 AM   #45
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Hated it.

I made like one post when the news came out along the lines of "I don't know about this shit fellas " .....shit I didn't even watch the fight and have never REALLY watched it to this day.

**** it.
Aww man. Well, now that Kelly has officially retired, you should treat yourself. It really was one of Hopkins best performances in the ring.
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