Looking at The Ring LHW ratings, is Nathan Cleverly the best LHW! Looks that way

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Originally Posted by bailey

Looking at The Ring LHW ratings, is Nathan Cleverly the best LHW!

I dont tend to go by the Ring mag ratings, but I was browsing recently at the ratings and was shocked by what I saw.

Dawson is considered Ring champ, but only has one win over one of the Ring LHW top 10 fighters and a loss to another

Hopkins at #1 also only has one win over one of the Ring LHW top 10 fighters and a loss to another

Cloud placed at number 2 has a disputed win over #3 Campillo.

Campillo at #3 has a loss and a draw with #6 Murat

Now this is where it gets very interesting
Cleverly at #4 has taken the 0 off of two of the Ring mags top 10 fighters, numbers 6 & 9 and #5 wouldnt fight him. #6 took the 0 of #3, and #8 pulled out of fighting Cleverly.
So Nathan beat undefeated #6 Murat, undefeated #9 Bellew, #5 Shumenov wouldnt fight him and #8 Braehmer pulled out against him, #1 Hopkins didnt seem interested in fighting him and #10 Pascal has just struggled with a Cleverly 4th round stoppage victim.
Nathan has done more than people realise
Number 10, Pascal has beaten Dawson, but recently was fighting a Cleverly leftover last month and couldnt stop a fighter Nathan handled and in 4 rounds, yet Pascal put Hopkins down twice.

4. Nathan Cleverly
5. Beibut Shumenov
6. Karo Murat
7. Isaac Chilemba
8. Juergen Braehmer
9. Tony Bellew
10. Jean Pascal


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Seems Cleverly is arguably the best LHW of today

im not sure about the best, if you're using the level of opposition as a measuring stick.....
IMO, he's definitely the most entertaining LHW to watch, and i really hope to see him step up to the A caliber fighters and prove himself there

I know he trusts his chin but.... a very powerful puncher may catch him real bad one day, or even a very sharp puncher

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Originally Posted by bailey

Apologies for the long delay

No worries

Originally Posted by bailey

So you comparing match of the day, to a bias boxing highlight video . Think in your delusion YDKSAH

No such comparisons were made, only decisive information was given about what a highlight is. We were discussing what a highlight was and I explained using trusted sources what they were, I also went into highlights used in other sports and gave MOTD as an example. You later on realising YDKSAH wanted to discuss a sub category of highlights known as bias highlights, which is a different topic overall.

Originally Posted by bailey

I did actually mean the bias highlight video you put up, which even makes a point of noting itself before the action, and you compare that to match of the day . Theres few words for that stupidity

Another indication that YDKSAH. A highlight video of an event can only come after the event has taken place. So your words "highlighted" in bold red above further proves my point that YDKSAH.

Originally Posted by bailey

Lets get the whole story together now . You made a thread, a long way in advance, knowing that it would be long gone off of the front ESB pages, saying you would bump it, if you got the result you predicted, which all the while was admitting that you would be hiding from your prediction if it didnt come to fruition. A shameful act of coward, that you know to be true, from the way you have become so defensive. Truly shameful

It does not matter when I make a prediction, it matters how I react after the event.

Your claim that I made a prediction long before the event because I was afraid of getting the prediction wrong has no basis whatsoever.

I made a prediction AA will put Ward on queer street, when I got it wrong I came back and bumped the thread accepted my wrong. Later I even changed the thread into Froch will put Ward on queer street, and accepted the wrong again. Here is the thread:-

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No cowering behind a betting scam

A prediction thread for the future, Kovalev would put Clev on Queer street.

Originally Posted by bailey

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Originally Posted by bailey

Lets look at your quotes on the fight


Your quotes and brutal selfpwnage at its best

Life and death in boxing is not the same thing as a war in fighting.

Here is my quote from the official ESB RBR of Clev vs Mohammedi, just in case you think I based my view on Cleverly from a highlight video.

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Originally Posted by bailey

the question was "IS". At the moment he fills the #4 position, but just look at the form line for Cloud and Campillo.
Cloud looked fortunate to win against Campillo, who lost and drew to a fighter that Nathan dominated and took the 0 of.
Hopkins has just been beaten by Dawson which is Dawson big win over a 47 year old and Nathan has more wins over the current top 10 LHWs than Dawson or Hopkins and took the 0 of two of the current top 10 LHWs

The only fighter Cleverly has beaten who was a Ring top 10 ranked opponent is Karo Murat. Clev beat Bellew when Bellew was not in the top 10. Dawson has beaten top 10 ranked opponents such as, Tarver (X2), Johnson (X2), Adamek, Diaconu and Hopkins while they were in the top 10.