JCC Sr : Canelo should fight Trout

[Emeritus]

Over at the scene. Not sure if he has a motive for saying this but I found it pretty interesting.

Doesn't necessarily mean he is correct but certainly something to think about especially for those who say Trout is overated and his only decent win is Cotto.

What do you think?

[MannySteward]

Where was this advice when Chavez Jr was fighting Tom, Dick and Harry

[Doc]

Originally Posted by MannySteward

Where was this advice when Chavez Jr was fighting Tom, Dick and Harry

u do have a point.

[Uncle Rico]

He's echoing the words of pretty much every boxing fan. During the whole time Canelo's held a light middleweight title (coming up to two years now), he's not fought one person who you could say "good fight, this'll be a stiff test". Shit, he's not even fought a decent light middleweight. Trout, who I think he would beat, would be the first.

[Emeritus]

Originally Posted by MannySteward

Where was this advice when Chavez Jr was fighting Tom, Dick and Harry

True. He seems to have a bit of an odd relationship with his son, maybe Jr has a little less respect for him than you'd expect due to his addictions.....

[Emeritus]

Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

He's echoing the words of pretty much every boxing fan. During the whole time Canelo's held a light middleweight title (coming up to two years now), he's not fought one person who you could say "good fight, this'll be a stiff test". Shit, he's not even fought a decent light middleweight. Trout, who I think he would beat, would be the first.

Canelo hasn't done anything for me to become a fan of his....I would like to see him beat some guys at 154lbs even if it wasn't Trout there are quite a number of decent opposition to take on.

He's resume is underwhelming to be honest.

[Uncle Rico]

Originally Posted by Emeritus

Canelo hasn't done anything for me to become a fan of his....I would like to see him beat some guys at 154lbs even if it wasn't Trout there are quite a number of decent opposition to take on.

He's resume is underwhelming to be honest.

Yup. He's a good fighter with a pleasing style, and I generally enjoy watching him put his combinations together (quite beautiful at times), but I too have found it difficult to root for him in recent times. I defended him at the beginning, but the way GBP have been shielding him is the sort of thing that damages the sport. And the "he's only 22" excuse doesn't hold weight any more. Dude has had more fights than most 30 year olds. With that much in-ring time, he shouldn't still be 'green'. He should have proven himself himself against tougher opponents by now. And despite this -- not stepping up or showing signs of real development -- he's still being walked into a fight with a Mayweather. A classic example of trying to safely engineer/manufacture a superstar.

[Emeritus]

Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

Yup. He's a good fighter with a pleasing style, and I generally enjoy watching him put his combinations together (quite beautiful at times), but I've too have found it difficult to root for him in recent times. I defended him at the beginning, but the way GBP have been shielding him is the sort of thing that damages the sport. And the "he's only 22" excuse doesn't hold weight any more. Dude has had more fights than most 30 year olds. With that many fights he shouldn't still be 'green'. He's not stepped up or shown signs of real development, and for that he'll be walked into fight with a Mayweather. A classic example of engineering/manufacturing a superstar.

if he gets the fight with Mayweather, he is going to lose and then people are going to say well he was always a hype job anyway.

[Ianian58]

Legends say JCC also fought a lot of nobodies. Though he's great those that weren't nobodies were great fighters.

[Uncle Rico]

Originally Posted by Emeritus

if he gets the fight with Mayweather, he is going to lose and then people are going to say well he was always a hype job anyway.

Exactly. Which, to be honest, will have both true and untrue elements to it. Sure, he is a product of a powerful hype machine that doesn't really belong in the ring with Mayweather, but at the same time, he isn't as poor as Mayweather will make him look. Canelo is a brilliant fighter, but he just won't be prepared for someone of Mayweather's level like he should be.

[Emeritus]

Originally Posted by Ianian58

Legends say JCC also fought a lot of nobodies. Though he's great those that weren't nobodies were great fighters.

Just look at the names on his resume do you believe Canelo will end up with a resume anywhere near the quality of JCC's?

I think Chavez has the right to voice his opinion - which happens to be the opinion of most other boxing fans anyway.

[Emeritus]

Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

Exactly. Which, to be honest, will have both true and untrue elements to it. Sure, he is a product of a powerful hype machine that doesn't really belong in the ring with Mayweather, but at the same time, he isn't as poor as Mayweather will make him look. Canelo is a brilliant fighter, but he just won't be prepared for someone of Mayweather's level like he should be.

I agree. I think if Canelo really wanted to fight Mayweather for as long as he has said he has, him and his team should have been steadily stepping up their competition. Mayweather is at the pinnacle of boxing and has tonnes of experience and skill it's not going to be no easy feat to beat him even at this stage in his career......no disrespect but he is not Oscar dude is dedicated to boxing....retirements or not he is ALWAYS in the gym and when they fight he will be more than ready and I believe will school Canelo.

[Hands of Iron]

Originally Posted by Emeritus

Just look at the names on his resume do you believe Canelo will end up with a resume anywhere near the quality of JCC's?

I think Chavez has the right to voice his opinion - which happens to be the opinion of most other boxing fans anyway.

Chavez is entitled to say whatever he wants.