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Old 01-21-2013, 04:18 PM   #76
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Wald and Vitali are two different people.

Do you think Lewis would have lost to Corrie Sanders or Ross Purity? I don't. And if he did, he would have most certainly avenged those loses as he did any other in his career.

I never seen wlad ko'ed before maybe tko'ed I have seen Lewis ktfoed
And i think it doesnt take a genius to see WLAd has beaten better opponents since ross and corrie so I call that a flute IMO.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:21 PM   #77
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Agreed, probably 14 years past prime, still a beast but definitely well over the crest. If there was no K's Pulev would likely be holding a belt and looking to build his own legacy.
Pulev is a real good fighter. The jab is consistently good and strong.
Pulev hasnt much power but his jab is like a right hand.


Pulev would beat 2002 version of Tyson. Hell even Danny Williams and Kevin McBride beat that Tyson.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:21 PM   #78
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Dangerous doesn't equate to overall level though. Although i would like to see Wlad in with those types.

Lewis used to get ripped apart for his resume, he beats some shot old fighters near the end of his career and precedes the unpopular kilt era and it's suddenly changed in to a fantastic resume. His resume is close to Wlad's. h2h i favor Lewis.
h2h Lewis is the GOAT
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:22 PM   #79
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I never seen wlad ko'ed before maybe tko'ed I have seen Lewis ktfoed

And you also saw him avenge those losses.


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And i think it doesnt take a genius to see WLAd has beaten better opponents since ross and corrie so I call that a flute IMO.
We don't know that.

His chance to prove it wasn't a fluke was by rematching the fighters and beating them both.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:23 PM   #80
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Wald and Vitali are two different people.

Do you think Lewis would have lost to Corrie Sanders or Ross Purity? I don't. And if he did, he would have most certainly avenged those loses as he did any other in his career.
He was good at revenge I agree.
But i know wlad would not get koed by Rahman for sure.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:27 PM   #81
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He was good at revenge I agree.
But i know wlad would not get koed by Rahman for sure.
You can't know that for sure. But if he did end up losing, even via TKO odds suggest that he wouldn't try and avenge the loss.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:27 PM   #82
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And you also saw him avenge those losses.



We don't know that.

His chance to prove it wasn't a fluke was by rematching the fighters and beating them both.
Yes he was good about avenging to a guy of Rahmans caliber he should have..I also agree wlad should have avenged the Ross fight back in 1997 even though wlad loss that because of fatigue and he wasn't no where near at his best at the time
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:29 PM   #83
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He was good at revenge I agree.
But i know wlad would not get koed by Rahman for sure.
Lewis was smiling and didn't train very well.
It was a lazy Lewis that got caught off guard.

Same reason Wlad got caught so early by Sanders, he didn't even spar a southpaw.

Lewis avenged his loss by taking Rahman to court so he could avenge it.
Sanders fought Vitali, Vitali won and there was no interest in the rematch anymore.

Lewis proved it was a fluke by delivering us with one of the most beautiful KOs in the hw division ever.
Wlad sadly never did.

The question is: How much does it matter he never avenged his defeats?
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:33 PM   #84
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Default Re: If Vitali or Wlad beats Pulev/Povetkin/Fury, will he rank above Lennox Lewis?

What makes wlad's loss to sanders look really bad is instead of beating sanders himself his brother stepped in and did it
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Lewis was smiling and didn't train very well.
It was a lazy Lewis that got caught off guard.

Same reason Wlad got caught so early by Sanders, he didn't even spar a southpaw.

Lewis avenged his loss by taking Rahman to court so he could avenge it.
Sanders fought Vitali, Vitali won and there was no interest in the rematch anymore.

Lewis proved it was a fluke by delivering us with one of the most beautiful KOs in the hw division ever.
Wlad sadly never did.

The question is: How much does it matter he never avenged his defeats?
Wlads only true loss IMO was to corrie sanders that caught him off guard

the other ones were based off fatigue from what I witnessed and I think he should have avenged corrie why he didn't I don't know
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:36 PM   #86
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Wlads only true loss IMO was to corrie sanders that caught him off guard

the other ones were based off fatigue from what I witnessed and I think he should have avenged corrie why he didn't I don't know
So you can get stopped 3 times in your career but only have one true loss?
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:36 PM   #87
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What makes wlad's loss to sanders look really bad is instead of beating sanders himself his brother stepped in and did it
I agree but i know he could beat sanders why he didn't is a mystery
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:38 PM   #88
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Wlads only true loss IMO was to corrie sanders that caught him off guard

the other ones were based off fatigue from what I witnessed and I think he should have avenged corrie why he didn't I don't know
Wow, do you actually believe this non-sense??
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:39 PM   #89
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So you can get stopped 3 times in your career but only have one true loss?
One was in 1997 and did you see the fight ?

The other was to lamon Brewster did you see that fight?


Yes there loses on paper that wlad was winning clearly at the time and all of a sudden ran out of gas so **** off hater
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:40 PM   #90
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So you can get stopped 3 times in your career but only have one true loss?
I think he meant to say, the Wlad of today wouldn't allow himself to gas.
Or else I don't know.
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