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Old 01-22-2013, 12:43 AM   #61
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arguello at 130? really? He had a short career at 130, as short and as similar as pac's career at 130. Mayweather dominated 130 division for 5 years and established himself as the best at 130
3 years, 8 defenses, a few non title fights. Much more than Pac. In fact those numbers are fairly similar to Floyds...
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:46 AM   #62
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You would have a point but you classed Corrales as a good win and the same for Chavez. That's dumb and you're dumb.

Opinion void.
So how should those two wins be classed as??......I say the Corrales win was great given the one sided ass whooping it was on Floyd's part and same for the Hernandez win, the Chavez win is a "very good" win in my opinion...
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:54 AM   #63
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So how should those two wins be classed as??......I say the Corrales win was great given the one sided ass whooping it was on Floyd's part and same for the Hernandez win, the Chavez win is a "very good" win in my opinion...
I agree. I would class Hernandez and Chavez both as very good wins. Chavez being a slightly better win.

Fortaleza is great and you could class Hernandez same the same. "Very good" at gbe least.

****ing new age Floyd haters try to discredit and trash good fighters just to bad mouth Floyd and they never even seen those fights.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:57 AM   #64
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Super Feather was not a contested division in his day. He had fights at or around 130, but dose not have a better resume than Mayweather at the weight. Great fighter and a three weight champion, but not at 130.
He was over 126 and under 130 for a good number of his fights, with opponents in the same weight category (or above). And his resume at the weight is as good as pretty much any fighter who landed in that weight category, Mayweather included.

That said, it wasn't an established weight class at the time, hence the emoticon, because he was never "officially"() a junior lightweight.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:01 AM   #65
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I agree. I would class Hernandez and Chavez both as very good wins. Chavez being a slightly better win.

Fortaleza is great and you could class Hernandez same the same. "Very good" at gbe least.

****ing new age Floyd haters try to discredit and trash good fighters just to bad mouth Floyd and they never even seen those fights.
Yeah, and it's not like his over Famaso, Manfredy, or Vargas were bad or anything. About the only fights that he had at the weight that were questionable were Gerneo, Rios, and Juuko...And all three of those fighters happened to be rated in the Top 10 at the time.

Top to bottom, it's a pretty good run at the weight. The drop-off in terms of quality isn't nearly as precipitous as some other 130lb champions.

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Old 01-22-2013, 01:15 AM   #66
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He was over 126 and under 130 for a good number of his fights, with opponents in the same weight category (or above). And his resume at the weight is as good as pretty much any fighter who landed in that weight category, Mayweather included.

That said, it wasn't an established weight class at the time, hence the emoticon, because he was never "officially"() a junior lightweight.
He was never officially a junior lightweight because he was a jazz musician, Drew. He played the trumpet for ****s sake.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:22 AM   #67
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He was over 126 and under 130 for a good number of his fights, with opponents in the same weight category (or above). And his resume at the weight is as good as pretty much any fighter who landed in that weight category, Mayweather included.

That said, it wasn't an established weight class at the time, hence the emoticon, because he was never "officially"() a junior lightweight.
I don't see anyone Armstrong beat at 127-130 who is noticeably better than Mayweather did.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:23 AM   #68
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He was never officially a junior lightweight because he was a jazz musician, Drew. He played the trumpet for ****s sake.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:29 AM   #69
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I don't see anyone Armstrong beat at 127-130 who is noticeably better than Mayweather did.
Benny Bass, Baby Arizmendi, Chalky Wright and maybe Juan Zaurita are all probably better names to have on a resume than Chico or Chicanito. Belloise was a good scalp to take, too.
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:11 AM   #70
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Default Re: Alright Mayweather Fanboys... How does this equate to the greatest 130 of all tim

Alexis Arguello has the best record at 130.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:37 AM   #71
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Nelson had a good run at 130, some decent wins.

Pacquiao has better wins than Floyd at 130.

Chavez was better, I think, just didn't stay long enough at the weight.

It's close, it could be Floyd I suppose, but I prefer Arguello.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:14 AM   #72
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Alexis Arguello @ 130
W TKO13 Alfredo Escalera, won WBC title from him
W TKO5 Rey Tam
W KO1 Diego Alcala
W UD15 Arturo Leon
W KO13 Alfredo Escalera II
W TKO11 Rafael Limon
W TKO7 Bobby Chacon
W TKO11 Ruben Castillo
W TKO5 Rolando Navarette

Floyd Mayweather Jr. @ 130
W RTD8 Genaro Hernandez, won WBC title and lineal championship from him
W TKO2 Angel Manfredy
W UD12 Carlos Rios
W KO9 ****** Juuko
W RTD7 Carlos Gerena
W UD12 Gregorio Vargas
W TKO10 Diego Corrales
W UD12 Carlos Hernandez
W RTD9 Jesus Chavez

I go with Mayweather here, but it is certainly close and a worthwhile debate.
Escalera >>>>>>> anyone on Floyd's 130lbs resume.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:49 AM   #73
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Arguello, Floyd and Nelson all seem to be mentioned a lot more often than Chavez.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:52 AM   #74
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I'd pay a lot to see PBF vs Nelson
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:40 AM   #75
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He's not

Arguello and Nelson have a real claim
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