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Old 01-22-2013, 12:11 AM   #16
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Default Re: How come nobody talk about old semi shot Oscar taking Floyd to SD?

It wasn't really deserving of an SD. But Freddie gave Oscar a great game-plan.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:12 AM   #17
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Nearly any Pacquiao fan is going to say it, I think a lot of people don't know what they're seeing, Lederman had it 8-4, I don't know how you get that.
Thanks for reminding me. I totally forgot that pacquiao fans can vote too. HBO was in on the fix that night imo.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:17 AM   #18
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Not only that but they don`t talk about Foyd backing out
from the rematch against ODLH. Oscar knew how to
defeat Floyd in a rematch but Floyd backed out from it.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:24 AM   #19
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Not only that but they don`t talk about Foyd backing out
from the rematch against ODLH. Oscar knew how to
defeat Floyd in a rematch but Floyd backed out from it.
Nah, Oscar would've gotten stopped in th rematch. Nobody knew it at the time, but after the Forbes and PAC fight we now know 147 was to light for him and he would've been, a zombie. Floyd turned down the rematch cause Oscar still wanted the lions share of the purse and to dictate all the terms even though floyd had already beaten him
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:31 AM   #20
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Default Re: How come nobody talk about old semi shot Oscar taking Floyd to SD?

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Oscar did do very well considering his opponent.

He was semi retired and inactive.

The fight was at 154 pounds though, and Floyd also won a minimum of 8 rounds.
De La Hoya hasn't fought more then twice a in year since 1999. He was past his prime but no way can you say semi retired when he had been keeping a very inactive schedule for the 7 years prior to the fight.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:58 AM   #21
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Nah, Oscar would've gotten stopped in th rematch. Nobody knew it at the time, but after the Forbes and PAC fight we now know 147 was to light for him and he would've been, a zombie. Floyd turned down the rematch cause Oscar still wanted the lions share of the purse and to dictate all the terms even though floyd had already beaten him
Most common sense boxing fans know that Floyd would not
stop ODLH. Against Forbes, DLH fought the way that would
defeat Floyd. He knew that his mistake for losing the fight
against Floyd was to stop throwing jabs and changing his game plan.
If you noticed, against Forbes, DLH through jabs in all 12 rounds
winning all of them. Agains Pac, DLH looked physically weak.
You are the first fan saying that Floyd did not fight the rematch
for the reason that you mention which I never heard before.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:05 AM   #22
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Default Re: How come nobody talk about old semi shot Oscar taking Floyd to SD?

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Where did you get these stats from? Shocking to see that there's more people who had it a damn draw or even a pacquiao "victory" over a wide 9-3 decision for Marquez. I learned a long time ago that the majority of fans don't understand what they're watching but still
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Among the unofficial scorers above, 57 scored the bout for Marquez, 51 scored the bout for Pacquiao, and the remaining 36 scored the bout a draw.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:08 AM   #23
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Oscar/Floyd = Cotto/Floyd

both clear UD's but live and capable fighters and it showed.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:12 AM   #24
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can you believe Floyd's heart wasnt in it after this fight?
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:34 AM   #25
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Most common sense boxing fans know that Floyd would not
stop ODLH. Against Forbes, DLH fought the way that would
defeat Floyd. He knew that his mistake for losing the fight
against Floyd was to stop throwing jabs and changing his game plan.
If you noticed, against Forbes, DLH through jabs in all 12 rounds
winning all of them. Agains Pac, DLH looked physically weak.
You are the first fan saying that Floyd did not fight the rematch
for the reason that you mention which I never heard before.
Most common sense boxing fans, understand that when a fighter who hasn't fought at a weight in 10years, suddenly tries to move down, and is so drained that he only weighs 145 on fight night, that's he not severely drained and he's very susceptible to being stopped. Oscar at 147 was drained and shot to shit. Hell, even at 150 he was drained. The remach was going to be at 147 and in hindsight seeing how drained to shit Oscar was, Floyd would have stopped him.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:49 AM   #26
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Default Re: How come nobody talk about old semi shot Oscar taking Floyd to SD?

most people figure Oscar went the distance because Floyd was content with not taking chances rather than because Oscar was still good.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:51 AM   #27
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most people figure Oscar went the distance because Floyd was content with not taking chances rather than because Oscar was still good.
Why didn't Oscar take more chances??
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:30 AM   #28
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Default Re: How come nobody talk about old semi shot Oscar taking Floyd to SD?

As everyone has said, the SD call was bullshit and probably out of "respect" for Oscar
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:41 AM   #29
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Most common sense boxing fans, understand that when a fighter who hasn't fought at a weight in 10years, suddenly tries to move down, and is so drained that he only weighs 145 on fight night, that's he not severely drained and he's very susceptible to being stopped. Oscar at 147 was drained and shot to shit. Hell, even at 150 he was drained. The remach was going to be at 147 and in hindsight seeing how drained to shit Oscar was, Floyd would have stopped him.
So, the rematch was going to be at 147 favoring Floyd and you said
before that Floyd backed out from the rematch because ODLH was
dictating the fight.
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:42 AM   #30
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Default Re: How come nobody talk about old semi shot Oscar taking Floyd to SD?

Everyone knows that the SD was BS.

Plus everything in that fight; gloves, weight, judges were in favour of Oscar
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