What is Steve Collins Problem?

[Cheesey1]

Originally Posted by SteelTownCobra

Is it Adrien Broner?

Ha!

[miguel2010]

Put yourself in the mans shoes before you pass judgement eh lads.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Originally Posted by MAJR

To be fair, Collins was calling out a Prime Jones back in the 1990's as well. Jones ignored him, acted as if he didn't exist and wasn't chasing him and calling him out at almost every opportunity, and Jones got away with it because Collins wasn't a household name or a big draw in the US and the American public weren't clammering for the fight so Collins wasn't an opponent he had to face to save face nor was it a fight that would generate mega-bucks - in fact, the American networks ignored Collins as well and were saying that nobody wanted to fight Jones so he had to move up a division.

Collins wanted a fight with Prime Jones and never got it, Collins chased Jones for years only to get the cold shoulder. It was a fight he desperately wanted that he never got because Jones and the American networks just ignored him. It's unfinished business in his book so of course he'd go on about it.

Course the money helps as well.

And as for him calling out a shot Roy Jones, well, I think that's perfectly fine considering Collins himself hasn't been in a pro-fight since 1997 so he's shot as well.

yup, I listened to a Collins interview recently where he said he actually went into the ring to challenge him, & RJJ ignored him like he didnt exist. Steve was a fine fighter & a loveable guy but ultimately a nearly man & should be grateful RJJ didnt take him up on his offer, cos RJJ would have beaten him handily, just like he did to everyone else at the time.

[miguel2010]

Look man, its not like its an old retired fighter taking on a young pup is it....think Collins is 48 an Jones is 44 or so. Fact is I worship RJJ have done for years, only fighter to get me off the edge of my seat and start jumping around the room shadow boxing etc!.


Id love to say RJJ can win, but he cant, only way he could is if Collins legs are fucked and he cant get away from Jones now ultra tame shots. I fear Collins will pummel Roys body big time.

Hes a hard bastard Collins, know who Id rather fight.....Sorry Roy.

[Unforgiven]

Originally Posted by Dunky McCafferty

yup, I listened to a Collins interview recently where he said he actually went into the ring to challenge him, & RJJ ignored him like he didnt exist. Steve was a fine fighter & a loveable guy but ultimately a nearly man & should be grateful RJJ didnt take him up on his offer, cos RJJ would have beaten him handily, just like he did to everyone else at the time.

I understand Collins. It's not really anything to be grateful for, RJJ ignoring him. Collins wanted to fight the best, and get the big payday. Like any good fighter he would have gone in believing he had a shot at winning, I think he earned the right.
Seeing as RJJ was fighting the likes of Bryant Brannan and Eric Lucas around that time, I think Collins has a point.

[Unforgiven]

Originally Posted by miguel2010

Look man, its not like its an old retired fighter taking on a young pup is it....think Collins is 48 an Jones is 44 or so. Fact is I worship RJJ have done for years, only fighter to get me off the edge of my seat and start jumping around the room shadow boxing etc!.


Id love to say RJJ can win, but he cant, only way he could is if Collins legs are fucked and he cant get away from Jones now ultra tame shots. I fear Collins will pummel Roys body big time.

Hes a hard bastard Collins, know who Id rather fight.....Sorry Roy.

Collins has not fought since 1997 though.

[miguel2010]

Originally Posted by Unforgiven

Collins has not fought since 1997 though.

Jones cant fire no more. Collins is tough...

If Roy didn't fancy beating him in 97, he cant really think he can beat him now......

Only way Roy wins is if Collins legs are lead based.

Even then, still might not pull it off.

[Jamal Perkins]

Originally Posted by McGuinty

Your attitude! Let him have his fight, if you dont like it then dont watch it! Nobody's forcing you to pay any attention to it you clown.

I think the ole guiness is going to your head mcflinty and you're starting to see leprauchauns and get delusions that steve collins is going to beat jones jnr just cos he has the arsehole in him and is a as you so eloquently put it a "hard bastard".....

[Jamal Perkins]

in a sense Collins sees himself as the white hagler.
He dismisses his close decision defeats to mccallum, johnson and kalambay and says he felt he won all 3. The networks ignored him as he fought in the era of the tv fighter where networks preffered 25-0 boxers who couldnt fight over 27-3 fighters like collins who could really fight and were willing to fight anyone. The eubanks that collins beat was perhaps 15% off his prime and collins beat him in Ireland twice on two very close decision wins which could have probably gone either way. He beat a Benn who tho on the surface not really removed from his prime, was mentally shot and scarred from the mclellan and malinga rematch. He lost to malinga but he wasnt shot. It only just emerged this year that there was a judges scores tallying mistake that night which if the correct score had been tallied would have resulted in benn beating malinga. So in essence Benn went into the collins fight unbeaten champ for almost 4 years and the two fights were barnburning equal matches but benn got injured than bailed out the second time cos he just couldnt be bothered anymore.
But collins-jones jnr wasnt a fight anyone except collins and the irish wanted. To suggest Jones jnr avoided him as he was scared is insane and there is something despicable about collins surfacing now and not 4 years ago when the shot jones jnr vintage of 2008 would have arseholed him within 5 rounds just like in 1997, this time collins is making a very big mistake thinking jones jnr wont still beat him easily

[KopTalk]

Originally Posted by Jamal Perkins

in a sense Collins sees himself as the white hagler.
He dismisses his close decision defeats to mccallum, johnson and kalambay and says he felt he won all 3. The networks ignored him as he fought in the era of the tv fighter where networks preffered 25-0 boxers who couldnt fight over 27-3 fighters like collins who could really fight and were willing to fight anyone. The eubanks that collins beat was perhaps 15% off his prime and collins beat him in Ireland twice on two very close decision wins which could have probably gone either way. He beat a Benn who tho on the surface not really removed from his prime, was mentally shot and scarred from the mclellan and malinga rematch. He lost to malinga but he wasnt shot. It only just emerged this year that there was a judges scores tallying mistake that night which if the correct score had been tallied would have resulted in benn beating malinga. So in essence Benn went into the collins fight unbeaten champ for almost 4 years and the two fights were barnburning equal matches but benn got injured than bailed out the second time cos he just couldnt be bothered anymore.
But collins-jones jnr wasnt a fight anyone except collins and the irish wanted. To suggest Jones jnr avoided him as he was scared is insane and there is something despicable about collins surfacing now and not 4 years ago when the shot jones jnr vintage of 2008 would have arseholed him within 5 rounds just like in 1997, this time collins is making a very big mistake thinking jones jnr wont still beat him easily

[achillesthegreat]

Why do fighters talk and act so brave when they are old or retire.

We didnt' want to see RJJ vs X 2 when they were hold, likewise we don't want to see RJJ vs Collins now. We wanted the best to fight the best at every stage of of their career.

[norfolkinchance]

jones is still relatively hsarp tho has no chin

collins has been doing FA for 15 years so gets beat easily......

[leo_messi]

Originally Posted by Dunky McCafferty

yup, I listened to a Collins interview recently where he said he actually went into the ring to challenge him, & RJJ ignored him like he didnt exist. Steve was a fine fighter & a loveable guy but ultimately a nearly man & should be grateful RJJ didnt take him up on his offer, cos RJJ would have beaten him handily, just like he did to everyone else at the time.

A nearly man?

A bonafide double world champion is now being called a nearly man?

This place would make you laugh.

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[almsn]

Didn't even know the return was serious till I read that article .