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Old 01-22-2013, 06:12 PM   #61
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How do you know Watson "hit harder" than Ward does? Who did he stop, other than Benn, to suggest that?
Watson had this tremendous overarm right punch that seemed to take out (or at least put down) anyone it landed on, apart from Eubank (...). The awesome amateur John Beckles was taken out in 30 seconds from it, and Ricky Stackhouse and Errol Christie were down in 30 seconds from it, too. Don Lee couldn't withstand it and was busted up. He would kind of just lean to one side and let it go, only Benn kept Watson's hands high with his aggression and Mike McCallum was too cute to stay in one spot. (Ward however likes to lay on the inside sporadically....)
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:33 PM   #62
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:06 PM   #63
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Eubank was mustard in the first 9 rounds of the first Watson fight. Cruising 7-2.
Why did i have the feeling you'd say just that? Utter rubbish.

As for the question i'd give Benn a punchers chance but Ward beats the rest, and beats Benn 9 out of 10.
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Why did i have the feeling you'd say just that? Utter rubbish.
Pull your head out your ass. Eubank was schooling Michael.
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:09 PM   #65
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Don't get me wrong, in the Rematch, Watson was outrageously good and beat Eubank up...
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:16 PM   #66
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Don't get me wrong, in the Rematch, Watson was outrageously good and beat Eubank up...
Facts are Eubank still won! Both guys throughout the fight took punishment.

Ward is not hard enough to even put Eubank on the defensive.

Eubank was incredible tough physically.

Eubank vs Watson II is probably Eubank's best performances, most fighters fold when they are over extended.

Benn & Eubank..? Did'nt.
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:24 PM   #67
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Watson had this tremendous overarm right punch that seemed to take out (or at least put down) anyone it landed on, apart from Eubank (...). The awesome amateur John Beckles was taken out in 30 seconds from it, and Ricky Stackhouse and Errol Christie were down in 30 seconds from it, too. Don Lee couldn't withstand it and was busted up. He would kind of just lean to one side and let it go, only Benn kept Watson's hands high with his aggression and Mike McCallum was too cute to stay in one spot. (Ward however likes to lay on the inside sporadically....)
Sorry, I'm still not seeing any sort of evidence that Watson, who I am a tremendous admirer of, was a bigger puncher than Ward. Yes, he stopped a lot of guys who were generally at domestic level, but once he was above that level he didn't look particularly brutal. A sharp puncher, very accurate and with great timing perhaps, but then so is Ward.
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:42 PM   #68
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Most thought Benn won the rematch and first time round he didn't know enough. Benn simply wasn't the same fighter as he was at middleweight. His defence was no where near as good as a youngster.

Prime Benn beats Calzaghe h2h in my opinion - let alone Ward who looks pretty good but struggled with sakio bika
Yeah, I'm with that. Never been a Joe C fan.

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Old 01-22-2013, 07:55 PM   #69
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Sorry, I'm still not seeing any sort of evidence that Watson, who I am a tremendous admirer of, was a bigger puncher than Ward. Yes, he stopped a lot of guys who were generally at domestic level, but once he was above that level he didn't look particularly brutal. A sharp puncher, very accurate and with great timing perhaps, but then so is Ward.
Beckles and Lee were well above local British level. Beckles won medals at European and World championships and Lee was once World #1 ranked middleweight during Hagler's reign.

Errol Christie had super talent and was difficult to catch with his nice rolls.
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:57 PM   #70
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Watson bulldozed them all easily with the aggressive, loading approach he later used against Eubank in their rematch.
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:59 PM   #71
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Also, Ricky Stackhouse looked good against Graham and Duran, causing them both problems. Watson bashed him all over the ring.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:16 PM   #72
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**** off "upset" SOG. Benn, Eubank, Collins and to a lesser extent Watson are all legends. Ward isn't. Not yet anyway. He's only just started really. Whether your think any of those guys in their primes could have beat Ward or vice-versa is up for debate, it all depends on what your prefer.

But to ask if any of those guys could win in an "upset" is disrespectful and stupid. Christ, Ward's unified one division and beat a weight-drained LW champion yet people are already calling him a legend and making out like he's some modern-day Sugar Ray Leonard. Stop putting him on this high-pedestal this early in his career. We actually don't know yet how truly good he is.

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Old 01-23-2013, 03:38 AM   #73
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How do you know Watson "hit harder" than Ward does? Who did he stop, other than Benn, to suggest that?

Anyway, outfighting is more how adept Ward is at working on the inside and denying his opponent room. He'd be tuning Benn up my round nine and would likely stop him.

From watching them both fight ?
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:41 AM   #74
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Errol Christie had super talent and was difficult to catch with his nice rolls.
He'd been knocked out several times by journeymen by the time he faced Watson.
He was chinny, and getting KO'd on the regular.
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:08 AM   #75
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I think Benn would be picked apart.
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