T.K.O. in 6

[On The Money]

Originally Posted by shaunster101

Klittard moaning about a fighter holding.

LOL

Away and find some soap ya clown. Lewis was allowed more license in that fight than the BBC gets in a year.

[shaunster101]

Originally Posted by On The Money

Away and find some soap ya clown. Lewis was allowed more license in that fight than the BBC gets in a year.

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[thesandman]

This thread is gold.
I've only just realised nearly 10 years on a NEW excuse has been created.

I missed the "Lewis' gloves were missing padding" a few pages back.

Brilliant.

[thesandman]

Originally Posted by On The Money

Away and find some soap ya clown. Lewis was allowed more license in that fight than the BBC gets in a year.

With all piss-taking removed, I think it was good to see a fight where the ref allows the fighters to punch and fight their way out of those situations. It's a bit of a lost art in heavies IMO.
Now they just sort of flop into a clinch and stand there aimlessly.

This wasn't a Michael Grant - hold the neck and uppercut - style holding. Both guys were doing it, but only one was fighting during it.

In the late rounds Vittles was doing all the holding.

More guys should punch in clinches. Would have been a better tactic for Haye than that awful collapso thing he did to try and stop Wlad clinching.

Steward spoke after the fight about how sneaking the right hand down in a clinch for the quick uppercut was something they'd worked on in the past.

[JAB5239]

Originally Posted by thesandman

This thread is gold.
I've only just realised nearly 10 years on a NEW excuse has been created.

I missed the "Lewis' gloves were missing padding" a few pages back.

Brilliant.

Lol, yeah that was a classic for sure. Pretty soon it will be "Lewis had a nail in his glove".

[BadDog]

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All sports where athletes compete against one another are relevant, you just don't want to admit it because it ruins your pathetic theory that somehow todays heavyweight are physically aging differently than other athletes.



Your list means nothing because you have no chrystal ball to tell you if most will still be fighting in their late 30's, early 40's. Out of your list though it's clearly visable that Vittles, Povetkin and Adamek have all declined compared to their best days. By the way, the average age of your list is just over 31 so YOU cant tell shit by it.



No, it means the division blows because guys only fight 2 or 3 times a year against soft comp allowing them to still be competitive. Take your hero Vitley do right for instance. Do you really think his sorry ass would be competitive now with prime versions of Holmes, Lewis, Tyson, etc.? If you do you're a complete fool.



Why don't you supply a link to where I've said ANYTHING even resembling these remarks? They're the exception, not the rule. What you're trying to falsley pass off is that todays heavyweights magically age different because there is an older crop of fighters at the world class level. This is easily explained by fighting less and against softer comp more often than not.



Good training habbit are without a doubt the key a longer career. But that doesn't stop physical decline that happen to EVERY person on this planet. Heres a couple links to support my case. How about you provide some links that tell how heavyweight boxers are now able to miraculously overcome father time while other athletes cannot?

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8. How long do world class athletes play their sport?
The average world class athlete retires from his sport at the age of 33. Incredibly, the average NFL player is retired by the age of 28, the average world class wrestler by 24, and the average elite gymnast by 19.

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If you need more I also found some great articles on how after 30 your lungs dont process oxygen as well anymore which leads to decreased stamina and strength. Of course that doesn't take into consideration PED's, which is a cheat anyways.

Nice schooling you again Spanky!!

How is that schooling if you can go to boxrec or the ring and view the ages of current boxers and most of them just start getting into the mix when they are over 30. You proved that NFL fighters are old past 30, so what? You lost the argument long time ago.
I also follow soccer and most soccer players are old at 28(no matter bad or good players), how does it relates to boxing?
Also, number 8 actually proves my point, that athletes age differently in every sport. Not sure why you wrote that, just to humiliate yourself even more? I think you just copied it from my post, cause I wrote the same thing to prove you wrong. You are obviously mentally challenged or something like that.

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[JAB5239]

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Originally Posted by JAB5239

How is that schooling if you can go to boxrec or the ring and view the ages of current boxers and most of them just start getting into the mix when they are over 30. You proved that NFL fighters are old past 30, so what? You lost the argument long time ago.

It's a schooling because you have no response to the point that the division is softer and the fact fighters fight less often and against softer comp much of the time. Its this that allows them to compete longer, not some magical potion that lets todays heavies hit their prime later.

I also follow soccer and most soccer players are old at 28(no matter bad or good players), how does it relates to boxing?
Also, number 8 actually proves my point, that athletes age differently in every sport. Not sure why you wrote that, just to humiliate yourself even more? I think you just copied it from my post, cause I wrote the same thing to prove you wrong. You are obviously mentally challenged or something like that.

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It doesn't relate to boxing, it relates to human beings. As I've stated, the body doesn't stop aging because someone boxes. And you've been caught lying now if you say that you wrote number 8 and it proves you didn't even bother reading the links I supplied because I copy and pasted it from that.

By the way, still waiting for you to provide a link saying boxers age differently than other athletes. Whats the hold up?

[JASPER]

I use to work with individuals with "special needs" so i can emphasize with the klitllickers . . . actual fuck'em TKO 6!

[BadDog]

It's a schooling because you have no response to the point that the division is softer and the fact fighters fight less often and against softer comp much of the time. Its this that allows them to compete longer, not some magical potion that lets todays heavies hit their prime later.

lol so a bad soccer player will be able to play when he is 40 and a good one will retire at 28? are you serious?
p.s. saying that division is weak is not a fact. It's your opinion only and you are basing your whole argument on your biased and subjective opinion. Not to mention that if the division was weak, then competition would not be softer. If all the fighters are weak then it would be difficult for them to win fights anyway, right?

Example, weak fighter would struggle against another weak fighter as much as a strong fighter would struggle against another strong fighter. So they would receive same amount of damage.

so there goes your whole argument.

It doesn't relate to boxing, it relates to human beings. As I've stated, the body doesn't stop aging because someone boxes. And you've been caught lying now if you say that you wrote number 8 and it proves you didn't even bother reading the links I supplied because I copy and pasted it from that.

go to previous pages and I even used same examples to prove how ages are different for every sport. You just pasted my own examples

By the way, still waiting for you to provide a link saying boxers age differently than other athletes. Whats the hold up?

Um.. the link is in the quoted text above, there you go again lol
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You also provided various links which prove that athletes age differently in every sport.

are you serious or you are that dumb? Maybe you so dumb that you don't even realize how dumb you are lol

[JAB5239]

Originally Posted by BadDog

lol so a bad soccer player will be able to play when he is 40 and a good one will retire at 28? are you serious?
p.s. saying that division is weak is not a fact. It's your opinion only and you are basing your whole argument on your biased and subjective opinion. Not to mention that if the division was weak, then competition would not be softer. If all the fighters are weak then it would be difficult for them to win fights anyway, right?

Example, weak fighter would struggle against another weak fighter as much as a strong fighter would struggle against another strong fighter. So they would receive same amount of damage.

so there goes your whole argument.


go to previous pages and I even used same examples to prove how ages are different for every sport. You just pasted my own examples
Um.. the link is in the quoted text above, there you go again lol
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You also provided various links which prove that athletes age differently in every sport.

are you serious or you are that dumb? Maybe you so dumb that you don't even realize how dumb you are lol

If used that example it just proves me right. And you have still provided no link that heavyweights prime later than all other athletes. This is common sense, you just don't have any.

[BadDog]

Originally Posted by JAB5239

If used that example it just proves me right. And you have still provided no link that heavyweights prime later than all other athletes. This is common sense, you just don't have any.

Please respond to this
weak fighter would struggle against another weak fighter as much as a strong fighter would struggle against another strong fighter. So they would receive same amount of damage.

Your whole argument was based on the biased opinion that HW division is weak, however I just proved that it is irrelevant in this argument.

p.s. the link is to boxrec HWs and it shows their ages.
Boxrec doesn't lie about people's ages.
Feel dumb? everything you wrote here is irrelevant cause you are an idiot. Fuck off now.
Now what are you gonna do? dissapear again for a month? lol Typical brainless hater.

[KidDynamite]

223 pages of klittard drivel

klits only claim to notoriety is getting his face pounded by a fat, physically impaired Lennox Lewis who only stuck around for the possibility of another Tyson payday

Klit prepared for over a year ahead with rigorous physical and mental training and had been studying Lewis for this whole time. He ambushed a fat Lewis who literally just showed up, hungover and made Vittles run back with near structural damage to his face.

Lewis retires not bothering to fight him again because of how he beat him to a bloody pulp at his worst, at walk around weight with limited training.

Vitali ends up getting multiple stitches to multiple deep wounds on his face and he really "won" because he was up on the scorecards? LOL. What if the fucker ended up with an infection on his face, blind in one eye? I'm sure he would have still "won" because he was ahead on the scorecards before the stoppage.

[JAB5239]

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Originally Posted by BadDog

Please respond to this
weak fighter would struggle against another weak fighter as much as a strong fighter would struggle against another strong fighter. So they would receive same amount of damage.

When you fight less often against weaker opposition you don't accumulate the same damage. Like I said, this is common sense.

Your whole argument was based on the biased opinion that HW division is weak, however I just proved that it is irrelevant in this argument.

Im sorry, link me to one expert who says its strong. I can find several who say its weak.

p.s. the link is to boxrec HWs and it shows their ages.
Boxrec doesn't lie about people's ages.
Feel dumb? everything you wrote here is irrelevant cause you are an idiot. Fuck off now.
Now what are you gonna do? dissapear again for a month? lol Typical brainless hater.

Who says its lying about ages? the average age of the list your supplies is 31 so it doesn't even reach your criteria of mid to late 30's being prime. On top of that its obvious several of the fighters in that list have slipped. So what am I gonna do now? I'm going to ask you AGAIN, for the upteenth time, where is your link showing todays heavyweight magically age different than all other athletes in the world? Bottom line is you can't answer because it simply isn't true. Several people have pointed this out and you ducked those posts too. And your boxrec link doesn't cut it since the average age is just over 31 with several fighters showing signs of slipping.

Face it lil doggy, you're my bitch!!

[KidDynamite]

wtf is this prime talk??

Vitali was in his absolute prime and he peaked in this fight ... and Lewis was done. That's all that matters.

He had 6 rounds to get the job done and get Lewis out of there but he failed and collapsed at the end.