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[kirk]

Originally Posted by BeastsideBoxing

I believe Robney wants to have it under the rules we started with, and I agree.
You should have some kind balance between the types of picking UD/TKO.

Ok, sounds good


Real quick though.

I dont view it as between UD and TKO

I think thats the wrong way to see it.

More accuratly, its

Decision vs stoppage

Decision - UD, MD, SD, Draw
Stoppage - Right now its simply trying to get a round from the actual round or have it spot on

Anyways, this is just my .02 on it

We will finish out these rounds with the initial rules, no problem

[BeastsideBoxing]

Originally Posted by kirk

Ok, sounds good


Real quick though.

I dont view it as between UD and TKO

I think thats the wrong way to see it.

More accuratly, its

Decision vs stoppage

Decision - UD, MD, SD, Draw
Stoppage - Right now its simply trying to get a round from the actual round or have it spot on

Anyways, this is just my .02 on it

We will finish out these rounds with the initial rules, no problem

MD, SD, Draw, are quite rare and hard to predict, infinite more easy do pick a round closer to the actual KO round. You still don't have a equality. It's just my opinion that we should at least give a chance to the one who guesses the exactly right average or one of the scorecards (whatever you fancies) to actually win his UD pick over another UD pick.
You can win a round even tough your opponent picked the same outcome(TKO) but you can't win a round when you both pick a UD. It's just my opinion, and just take it as a suggestion. I'd be okay with whatever you decide to do.

Oh and if you can do anything to speed up the length(in days) of the title fights, even just a little bit, would love it.

[kirk]

Originally Posted by BeastsideBoxing

MD, SD, Draw, are quite rare and hard to predict, infinite more easy do pick a round closer to the actual KO round. You still don't have a equality. It's just my opinion that we should at least give a chance to the one who guesses the exactly right average or one of the scorecards (whatever you fancies) to actually win his UD pick over another UD pick.
You can win a round even tough your opponent picked the same outcome(TKO) but you can't win a round when you both pick a UD. It's just my opinion, and just take it as a suggestion. I'd be okay with whatever you decide to do.

Oh and if you can do anything to speed up the length(in days) of the title fights, even just a little bit, would love it.

Ill think on the first one, the second one will be a go, I wont be skipping over any fights for any reason.

[BeastsideBoxing]

Originally Posted by kirk

Ill think on the first one, the second one will be a go, I wont be skipping over any fights for any reason.

I think others should be asked, just to see what they think. Maybe they would want to keep it simple on the UD. We don't know. Guys who would later like to take part in WBK title fight should have an opinion on this to. DavidB, Tackle, Pinoy, Robney, DemolitionDan, Malden and everybody else I didn't mention.

[DemolitionDan]

Sergiy Dzinziruk vs. Brian Vera- Sergiy Dzinziruk by SD
Demetrius Andrade vs. Freddy Hernandez - Demetrius Andrade by UD
Selcuk Aydin vs. Jesus Soto Karass - Selcuk Aydin by UD
Lucas Martin Matthysse vs. Mike Dallas Jr.- Lucas Matthysse by KO
Hugo Fidel Cazares vs. Rey Perez - Hugo Fidel Cazares by KO
Daniel Geale vs. Anthony Mundine II- Daniel Geale by UD

[Boxed Ears]

Geal, UD.
Vera, stoppage.
Matthysse, stoppage.

[kirk]

Andrade by UD
Aydin by KO
Matthysse by KO
Cazares by KO
Geale by UD

[kirk]

Im having trouble picking the Dz/Vera fight.... will wait on that one

[Robney]

Originally Posted by kirk

Im having trouble picking the Dz/Vera fight.... will wait on that one

Was my hardest pick too Kirk. A real 50/50 fight if you ask me.

[kirk]

JANUARY FIGHT LIST
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1/4 - Rances Barthelemy vs. Arash Usmanee - 12x3 IBF Super Featherweight Eliminator for #2 (ESPN2) - Barthelemy UD - 115-113/116-112/116-112 - Not a robbery like a couple think, especially Teddy Atlas, had it 115-113 Barthelemy myself (PinoyProdigy)
1/11 - John Molina vs. Dannie Williams - 10x3 (ESPN2) Molina KO4 - big right hook to the temple.
1/11 - Ronny Rios vs. Rico Ramos - 10x3 NABF Featherweight Title (Showtime) Rios UD - 100-90/97-93/96-94 - close bout as expected, one judge with a pre filled out card obviously.
1/12 - Adrian Hernandez vs. Dirceu Cabarca - 12x3 WBC Light Flyweight Title - Hernandez UD - 118-110/118-108/119-112
1/19 - Sergey Kovalev vs. Gabriel Campillo - 10x3 (NBC Sports Network) - Kovalev TKO3 - Campillo completely outclassed, down 3 times in the 3rd and stopped. Kovalev is the real thing!
1/19 - Roman Martinez vs. Juan Carlos Burgos - 12x3 WBO Super Featherweight Title (HBO) - DRAW - 117-111/112-116/114-114 Burgos rattled Martinez' body with hard shots over the complete length of the bout... WAR MINIBURGOS!
1/19 - Gennady Golovkin vs. Gabriel Rosado - 12x3 WBA World & IBO Middleweight Titles (HBO) - Golovkin TKO7 - Rosado made it much longer as I expected, and didn't go down being bloodied, busted up and rocked a couple of times.
1/19 - Orlando Salido vs. Miguel Angel Garcia - 12x3 WBO Featherweight Title (HBO) - Garcia TUD8 - 79-70/79-69/79-69 - Salido down twice in the 1st, round 3 and 4. Garcia battered Salido until a "accidental" headbutt broke his nose and the fight went to the cards
1/25 - Serhiy Dzinziruk vs. Brian Vera - 10x3 (ESPN2)
1/25 - Demetrius Andrade vs. Freddy Hernandez - 10x3 (Showtime)
1/26 - Selcuk Aydin vs. Jesus Soto Karass - 10x3 (Showtime)
1/26 - Lucas Martin Matthysse vs. Mike Dallas Jr. - 12x3 Interim WBC Light Welterweight Title (Showtime)
1/26 - Hugo Fidel Cazares vs. Rey Perez - 12x3 NABF Bantamweight Title
1/30 - Daniel Geale vs. Anthony Mundine II - 12x3 IBF Middleweight Title (Australia Main Event)

[kirk]

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Selcuk Aydin vs. Jesus Soto Karass - Selcuk Aydin by UD
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[kirk]

Originally Posted by Robney

Was my hardest pick too Kirk. A real 50/50 fight if you ask me.

Ya I think tomorrow Ill really look it over well..... Normally Id skip a fight like this but Im in it to win it this year for a change, cant be skipping fights and expect to be near the top so gonna have to make a decision.

[jdr]

Serhiy Dzinziruk UD
Demetrius Andrade UD
Selcuk Aydin UD
Lucas Martin Matthysse TKO 7
Daniel Geale UD

[BeastsideBoxing]

Does nobody likes to have an opinion on the WBK rules Changes ?

[nellybc]

Dzinziruk UD
Andrade UD
Aydin KO RD 7
Matthyse KO RD 5
Cazares UD
Geale UD