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Old 01-23-2013, 02:56 PM   #1
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Default Who is greater? Willie Pep or Benny Leonard?

Who is the greater fighter? Who should be ranked higher, regardless of weight?

Wiilie Pep, or Benny Leonard?
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:52 PM   #2
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I gather Pep is generally considered the better by those who watched both. I think Pep looks the more skilled of the 2

Leonard I think edges it resume and dominance wise though

Toss a coin
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:58 PM   #3
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I'd go with Leonard based on the depth of his resume
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:13 PM   #4
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Benny Leonard was considered to be the best all around fighter of his times, just as Ray Robinson was the very best of his times with Willie Pep #2...Benny leonard was a
magnificent boxer and a very stiff two handed puncher who could ko an opponent at any time...
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:31 PM   #5
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Default Re: Who is greater? Willie Pep or Benny Leonard?

Definitely, definitely Leonard. Willie Pep is in my top ten all-time, but Leonard, knowing what I know now, I think is a lock for top five.

In his best years Leonard went 80-2-1, both the losses being a bit meaningless (disqualification and a four rounder), and including those, he went 15-2-1 against Hall of Famers within that period. Incredible record once analysed.

To his credit, Pep did beat a bucket load of contenders, including some at 135lbs.
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:54 PM   #6
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Benny, magnificent in all aspects, would be a sensation in todays era, what a fighter!
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Old 01-23-2013, 06:10 PM   #7
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Benny is #1...
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:00 PM   #8
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Leonard, cleaning up shop here, i prefer Willie Pep though guy was unbelievable to watch
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:13 PM   #9
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Toss a coin

I would largely agree with this....I wouldn't really argue against someone placing them in either order...For me a slight lead to Benny.

01 SRR
02 Armstrong
03 Greb

04 Langford
05 Fitzsimmons
06 Benny
07 Charles
08 Pep
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:12 AM   #10
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both were excellent fighters....Pep was a master with a long career both before and after the crash but was a featherweight...the greatest YES...Leonard was one of the greatest if not the greatest lightweight of all time could box punch and speed of hand and foot....many of the old-timers told me he beats Duran....Greatest Lightweight...could be
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:06 AM   #11
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While I have absolutely no hesistation in saying Benny Leonard, it's still hard to fathom how a boxer can be 'greater than Willie Pep'.

I'd probably say equal greatness, but I'd rank Leonard higher.
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:16 AM   #12
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Leonard.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:39 AM   #13
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:53 AM   #14
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Benny Leonard is an argument for number one all time great. Willie Pep is not.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:04 AM   #15
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I would like to thank everyone for their input. It's all unbelievably appreciated.

With Benny Leonard and Roberto Duran's greatness so neck and neck with each other: does Leonard being greater than Pep -- make Duran greater as well?
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