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Old 01-25-2013, 11:11 PM   #1
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I mean with an illustrious history, why isn't there anybody making noise in the Heavyweight world?
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:39 PM   #2
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Klits are a once in a lifetime phenomenon.
They can't be ****ed with... & why try??
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:40 PM   #3
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Klits are a once in a lifetime phenomenon.
They can't be ****ed with... & why try??
kinda agree minus them USA would have beltholders
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:38 AM   #4
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They're playing basketball and Gridiron football now.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:39 AM   #5
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Klits are a once in a lifetime phenomenon.
They can't be ****ed with... & why try??
Youre kidding right? Once in a lifetime phenomenon in
Heavyweights would be Ali or Tyson. I think the
phenomenon is the lack of American talent. Maybe
HW boxing isnt as popular especially with younger
people who would consider boxing. We all saw the
US olympic heavyweight debacle, although the superheavy
american won his pro debut. However he was a football
player, perhaps other sports seem more lucrative and
attractive. Perhaps trainers focus more on lower weights
because those divisions are stacked. Back in 2009 I felt
Arreola was rushed into a title shot, but I thought he had
a chance against Vitali. But after that loss Arreola didn't
improve his technique and is basically a club fighter.
Seth Mitchell is a hype job. Interesting study.
Less gyms? Haha I dont know. I mean the 90s
were so stacked with American talent, Bowe
Holyfield, Foreman, Tyson, Morrison, mercer.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:41 AM   #6
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Klits are a once in a lifetime phenomenon.
They can't be ****ed with... & why try??
Everyone is going to tell you that its because of the NBA and NFL, as if of the roughtly 150 million American men, they are all in the NBA or NFL.

There are two real reasons:

A) Americans are becoming lazier, fatter, and more cowardly every minute, and

B) It is virtually impossible to find a good amatuer boxing program in our pussified culture.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:42 AM   #7
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Ok, this is a new theory. Like all profession you can only improve by being around people above your own level. Americans boxers are notarious for not going over seas. So by fighting opponents around the same level, possible championship potenial is suppressed. Maybe some of the better prospects could campaign in Europe and explore.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:43 AM   #8
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:46 AM   #9
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Everyone is going to tell you that its because of the NBA and NFL, as if of the roughtly 150 million American men, they are all in the NBA or NFL.

There are two real reasons:

A) Americans are becoming lazier, fatter, and more cowardly every minute, and

B) It is virtually impossible to find a good amatuer boxing program in our pussified culture.
yes we have no more good athletes in America over 6 foot because they're lazy

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Old 01-26-2013, 12:50 AM   #10
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yes we have no more good athletes in America over 6 foot because they're lazy

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Again- fallacy of small numbers.

A tiny, tiny percentage of American atheletes over 6 foot play in the NBA/NFL.

Its a joke, man. No one who understands basic mathematics can take that argument seriously.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:50 AM   #11
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I think the NFL and NBA reason is a poor excuse

both leagues have been around since before the HWT golden era of Ali and US heavies were still good

even in the 90's big men still did these sports and US heavies still were top class

I think the state of US boxing has more to do with the state of boxing than the availability of other sports
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:52 AM   #12
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What do people think?
America has good athletes and always will! It's just that most people dont wanna fight for a living. It's not like in the 70's every young male athlete was a fighter. It's a small percentage and always has been. We had 90% of heavyweight champions and now the tide has turned to Europe. The US will come back like it always has.
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kinda agree minus them USA would have beltholders
No. If the Klitschko's weren't there, the Brits would rule the HW world.
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What do people think?
America has good athletes and always will! It's just that most people dont wanna fight for a living. It's not like in the 70's every young male athlete was a fighter. It's a small percentage and always has been. We had 90% of heavyweight champions and now the tide has turned to Europe. The US will come back like it always has.
I mean without the Klitschkos would the US be lagging that far behind? I dont think so
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:58 AM   #15
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No. If the Klitschko's weren't there, the Brits would rule the HW world.
I dont know if theyd have all 4 belts maybe the majority but ppl act as if since the US has no title representation that they are suddenly horrible

i just think the 2 K-Bros are just that good
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