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Old 01-26-2013, 03:46 AM   #31
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Because of the economy.
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Old 01-26-2013, 03:48 AM   #32
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Noone cares abt boxing no
More. Hell Boone flinched when pacquaio got koed but roared for Cain hen he won Hw title
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:55 AM   #33
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NBA, NFL, MMA, mcdonalds
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:01 AM   #34
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The US scene is dead because the Klits are too good, they can't match them physically or mentally. Once the Klits are away you'll see the same abc belt state side champs return.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:42 AM   #35
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I mean with an illustrious history, why isn't there anybody making noise in the Heavyweight world?
Food stamps. Section 8 housing. Dope game.

Why would a kid risk getting his face pushed in during his teen yrs if he aint hungry to escape his circumstances.
America is a welfare state. Even the poorest of the poor have iphones and flat screens.

The team sports argument comes to mind, but that only solidifies the argument. Poor kids today got it too soft. The solid athletic kids with any hope are groom by HS coaches for football and basketball, sent to Catholic and Prep schools where they're essentially paid to play.

If there was money in amatuer boxing, and promoters started combing the sandlots looking for talent, there might be better american fighters.

The only good american fighters are too small for team sports.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:45 AM   #36
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:32 AM   #37
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- Poor amateur program

- Lack of inspirational role models

- Improvement of overseas heavyweights

- General pussification of culture

- Rise of big money team sports

- Lack of true grit or hunger among urban poor

- Mollycoddling promoters

All of the above in same manner impacts on the situation, I think.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:41 AM   #38
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Inflation...
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:00 AM   #39
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Far more money in other sports(mainly NFL) and less risk of death or serious injury.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:01 AM   #40
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NBA, NFL, MMA, mcdonalds
Doubt any serious/gifted rising fighter would pick MMA, where they literally pay them peanuts, over boxing.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:05 AM   #41
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Everyone is going to tell you that its because of the NBA and NFL, as if of the roughtly 150 million American men, they are all in the NBA or NFL.

There are two real reasons:

A) Americans are becoming lazier, fatter, and more cowardly every minute, and

B) It is virtually impossible to find a good amatuer boxing program in our pussified culture.
Your second point is a good one. How you gonna' have boxing in school when Mothers against drunk driving have taken over. We're all supposed to live in a hermetically sealed bubble now. Didn't you get the memo? It's for the children's sake so how can you argue?

The first? I dunno about cowardly. Not hard at all to find a nice brawl most places if you go in running your mouth. If you really believe that, pick a port (we have a shit ton of them in this country), go to one of the bars down by the docks and try your luck. Then you can post the results on your facey-space...
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:07 AM   #42
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I have noticed the number mentioned for the NBA and NFL have got alot higher in recent time, however that doesn't guarantee the people who would have picked boxing if the money was lower would be any better.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:12 AM   #43
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I assume lack of real quality trainers on the HW scene
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:40 AM   #44
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Far more money in other sports(mainly NFL) and less risk of death or serious injury.
Show me a top level heavyweight boxer who initially got into the sport for the money, and not for example to get off the streets, stay out of jail, avoid being picked on etc.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:51 AM   #45
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They're playing basketball and Gridiron football now.
LOL bullshit............See Seth Mitchell............!
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