the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread. - Page 207

Lester1583 · 01-26-2013, 02:41 PM

I hate you!

Lester1583 · 01-26-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

Pitchit being sparked out

By the way, do you know anything about Saensak's and Galaxy brothers' thai boxing careers, Flea?

How good were they?
Fight record?
Hearbreaking knockout losses maybe?

I've read that Khaosai was a big puncher but had a weak kicking technique.

Flea Man · 01-26-2013, 02:56 PM

Saensak was a Raja' stadium champion! He represented Muay Thai in one of the many Musy Thai Vs Eastern Martial Arts matches, beating a Taekwondo guy. The one real notable loss for him that I've seen is against an ATG, Poot Lorlek, an all-round technician with his own brilliant hands and boxing career (didn't do as well as I imagined he would've watching him as a Nak Muay)

The Galaxy Bros. were not significant Nak Muay as far as I know.

Samart was the most accomplished Muay Thai champion to turn over. Kongtoranee (who fought Khaosai and Roman also multiple weight stadium champ) was another and Sagat Petchyindee is one of the P4P ATGs and challenged 'Bazooka' Gomez in a Saensak-esque 3rd pro' bout

Flea Man · 01-26-2013, 03:01 PM

You should watch Veeraphol and Samson Dutchboygym trade vicious knockouts.

Addie · 01-26-2013, 03:05 PM

What you guys wasting your time with these Asian jokers for?

orriray59 · 01-26-2013, 03:06 PM

Tszyu-Hurtado. Hectic first round, but then Kostya takes over and takes the talented Cuban out in the fifth round.

salsanchezfan · 01-26-2013, 03:08 PM

Just finished Edwin Rosario - Anthony Jones. Rosario scored a sixth round, one-punch KO, which one might have thought would fit the script well enough. In reality though, it didn't really tell the story. Rosario looked awful here; slow, off-balance, not much snap on his shots, easy to hit........good thing for him Jones was no puncher, he'd have been out of there by the fourth.

Jones fought for Kronk, and Emannuel Steward told Jones, who had a reputation as a boxer, to back Rosario up and take the play away from him. It made for an entertaining little scrap, I'll say that. I have always thought that the way to beat Rosario was to back him up (as frankly that's how all his losses occurred, kind of an easy one there), but there's also something to be said about playing to one's strengths. In this regard, I think Steward failed Jones. Jones succeeded in taking the play to Rosario after the second, backing him up and hurting him a bit with some sharp if not hard punches as the Kronk fighter slipped back and forth between conventional and southpaw stances. Rosario looked sloppy and hittable, and often fell off balance as he pawed with his left and overextended with his rights. Many of his shots were landing, and Jones' left eye was swelling, but that horrible concussive power Rosario had was seemingly missing.

Until the sixth.

Jones came out aggressively again at the start of that round and eagerly traded with the Puerto Rican as he had been, but Rosario had begun to find the range a bit more with the right. BOOM! A single right hand drops Jones on his face, and he barely beats the count. The referee hesitates before letting him proceed, but as soon as Rosario lands one or two decent shots on the totally incapacitated Jones, he rushes in to wave it off as Jones collapses forward in his arms.

Ultimately, Jones was nothing special, and a prime Rosario should have blown him out. This was for the vacant lightweight title, vacated by JCC when he moved up to fight Roger Mayweather again. It marked the third time Rosario won the lightweight title, and only the second time that had been done.

LittleRed · 01-26-2013, 03:18 PM

That the big dude Whitaker beat up on the inside?

salsanchezfan · 01-26-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleRed

That the big dude Whitaker beat up on the inside?

Had to look it up, but yes, apparently. He lost to Whitaker, anyway. Seems he also jumped up to junior-middle eventually, and also stopped Julian Jackson in 1998 before finally retiring in 2001. I was unaware of this.

Lester1583 · 01-26-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

The one real notable loss for him that I've seen is against an ATG, Poot Lorlek

I've seen this fight - Saensak was robbed!

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

Sagat Petchyindee is one of the P4P ATGs and challenged 'Bazooka' Gomez in a Saensak-esque 3rd pro' bout

Damn.
And I've always wondered who was this poor thai guy who was fed to Gomez so early in his career.

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

Poot Lorlek Samson Dutchboygym

They both have perfect records and they both retired undefeated.

What happened? Were they any good?

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

You should watch Veeraphol and Samson Dutchboygym trade vicious knockouts.

Yeah, I've read about it.

Sounds like a great rivalry.

LittleRed · 01-26-2013, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by salsanchezfan

Had to look it up, but yes, apparently. He lost to Whitaker, anyway. Seems he also jumped up to junior-middle eventually, and also stopped Julian Jackson in 1998 before finally retiring in 2001. I was unaware of this.

Yeah its an interesting fight.

Flea Man · 01-26-2013, 05:08 PM

Both those Veeraphol-Samson fights are on YouTube Lester, BoranBKK uploaded them

Poor had a contractual dispute or summat and couldn't carry on but he was lined up for a title shot at Lightweight....I wanna' say against Guts but I might be wrong....

Anyway, Samson was a proper protected WBU 'titlist'. Hatton's oppo' during his WBU run, for an easy comparison, was far superior. Samson was decent though. His handlers obviously like to milk him (allThai fighters are ruthlessly exploited financially) for all he was worth or lacked the confidence to step him up.

He'd give Omar Narvaez a good go though, in terms of uber-protected super fly trinket holders.

Flea Man · 01-26-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Addie

What you guys wasting your time with these Asian jokers for?

Pichit Sithbangprachan would've done Yuh a thorough disservice.

Addie · 01-26-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

Pichit Sithbangprachan would've done Yuh a thorough disservice.

Hipster nonsense from the forum's king hipster.

Flea Man · 01-26-2013, 05:29 PM

I'm not getting into an argument with you.

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01-26-2013, 02:56 PM	#3093
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,059 vCash: 75	Re: the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread. Saensak was a Raja' stadium champion! He represented Muay Thai in one of the many Musy Thai Vs Eastern Martial Arts matches, beating a Taekwondo guy. The one real notable loss for him that I've seen is against an ATG, Poot Lorlek, an all-round technician with his own brilliant hands and boxing career (didn't do as well as I imagined he would've watching him as a Nak Muay) The Galaxy Bros. were not significant Nak Muay as far as I know. Samart was the most accomplished Muay Thai champion to turn over. Kongtoranee (who fought Khaosai and Roman also multiple weight stadium champ) was another and Sagat Petchyindee is one of the P4P ATGs and challenged 'Bazooka' Gomez in a Saensak-esque 3rd pro' bout
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salsanchezfan Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 6,894 vCash: 1000	Re: the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread. Just finished Edwin Rosario - Anthony Jones. Rosario scored a sixth round, one-punch KO, which one might have thought would fit the script well enough. In reality though, it didn't really tell the story. Rosario looked awful here; slow, off-balance, not much snap on his shots, easy to hit........good thing for him Jones was no puncher, he'd have been out of there by the fourth. Jones fought for Kronk, and Emannuel Steward told Jones, who had a reputation as a boxer, to back Rosario up and take the play away from him. It made for an entertaining little scrap, I'll say that. I have always thought that the way to beat Rosario was to back him up (as frankly that's how all his losses occurred, kind of an easy one there), but there's also something to be said about playing to one's strengths. In this regard, I think Steward failed Jones. Jones succeeded in taking the play to Rosario after the second, backing him up and hurting him a bit with some sharp if not hard punches as the Kronk fighter slipped back and forth between conventional and southpaw stances. Rosario looked sloppy and hittable, and often fell off balance as he pawed with his left and overextended with his rights. Many of his shots were landing, and Jones' left eye was swelling, but that horrible concussive power Rosario had was seemingly missing. Until the sixth. Jones came out aggressively again at the start of that round and eagerly traded with the Puerto Rican as he had been, but Rosario had begun to find the range a bit more with the right. BOOM! A single right hand drops Jones on his face, and he barely beats the count. The referee hesitates before letting him proceed, but as soon as Rosario lands one or two decent shots on the totally incapacitated Jones, he rushes in to wave it off as Jones collapses forward in his arms. Ultimately, Jones was nothing special, and a prime Rosario should have blown him out. This was for the vacant lightweight title, vacated by JCC when he moved up to fight Roger Mayweather again. It marked the third time Rosario won the lightweight title, and only the second time that had been done.
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Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,059 vCash: 75	Re: the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread. Both those Veeraphol-Samson fights are on YouTube Lester, BoranBKK uploaded them Poor had a contractual dispute or summat and couldn't carry on but he was lined up for a title shot at Lightweight....I wanna' say against Guts but I might be wrong.... Anyway, Samson was a proper protected WBU 'titlist'. Hatton's oppo' during his WBU run, for an easy comparison, was far superior. Samson was decent though. His handlers obviously like to milk him (allThai fighters are ruthlessly exploited financially) for all he was worth or lacked the confidence to step him up. He'd give Omar Narvaez a good go though, in terms of uber-protected super fly trinket holders.
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Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,059 vCash: 75	Re: the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread. I'm not getting into an argument with you.
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