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View Poll Results: Jackson vs Trinidad
Jackson by KO 21 75.00%
Jackson by decision 0 0%
Draw 0 0%
Trinidad by KO 6 21.43%
Trinidad by decision 1 3.57%
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:58 PM   #1
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Who would win this and how? @154

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Old 01-26-2013, 05:03 PM   #2
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Jackson early, or Trinidad late.

Jackson came to bang, and Tito was a ridiculously slow starter.

If Julian allows Tito to find a rythm then I think he gets picked off.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:04 PM   #3
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154 or MW?
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:19 PM   #4
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:24 PM   #5
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I'll go with Jackson. Jackson 4 out of 5 times
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:25 PM   #6
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Tito wins this his chin was far better then people believe it was. He got dropped a lot but always got up fighting stronger. Thats the hallmark of a great chin not a weak one. It says more about his balance then it does about his chin.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:27 PM   #7
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Tito wins this his chin was far better then people believe it was. He got dropped a lot but always got up fighting stronger. Thats the hallmark of a great chin not a weak one. It says more about his balance then it does about his chin.
that may be different getting hit by Jackson
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:27 PM   #8
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Tito was too much of a slow starter.

He usually fought the first three flat, which is exactly when Jackson came to bang.

Add that Julian is probably the best puncher ever, and it doesn't mix.

I'll take Tito if this makes it to the middle rounds, but I think 90% of the time Jackson knocks him the hell out.

Jackson KO 2, and I'm reasonably confident in that pick.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:37 PM   #9
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I've just spoke about this is the other thread and as Magna said Tito went down early (2nd round loads of times at 147, in 3rd I think against Reid, Vargas had him down too) and Jackson could take it there early.

Would Tito regroup as McCallum did when stunned? Or will he succumb as fellow puncher Baek did? Trinidad usually recovered quickly and would quickly be back on top of you but he won't have that option here. If Jackson drops him, he likely doesn't recover.

If he does manage to brave the storm he can come into it more and catch a lagging Jackson in a punch up. But 3/5 I'd favour Jackson.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:39 PM   #10
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Agreed with SJS and Magna. Tito probably gets caught cold early and put to sleep. If he finds a way to hang in there for a while he'd most likely grind Jackson down with the well-placed power shots, but he's there to be hit, tended to take a while to get going, and would be fighting puncher supreme, so not likely.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:39 PM   #11
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For the sake of argument, I'll take Trinidad. He recovers better for getting clipped and has better defense. I also think his left hook is more than fast enough to catch Julian on a counter.

He wins the boxing spurts and I think he's better at disguising his punches. Much like Hearns, who would throw a jab first and had a bomb right hand that you didn't see behind it, Tito was great at masking his left hook just behind a right hand, so guys didn't see that left coming. Jackson threw big punches one at a time usually, and his big knockouts are of the single-punch variety. I think Tito sees those more easily than Jackson sees Tito's big punches.


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Old 01-26-2013, 06:30 PM   #12
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If I had to design a fighter to beat Trinidad, I wouldn't pick a huge puncher.

I always thought that Trinidad's biggest weakness was his lack of ability to handle side to side movement. DLH showed it, and Hopkins put his own stamp on that tactic. It always seemed like a pretty basic weakness for an ATG to show in my eyes.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:35 PM   #13
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Trinidad would get hurt early and against Jackson that's disaster as tito is not mccallum


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Old 01-26-2013, 07:11 PM   #14
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For the sake of argument, I'll take Trinidad. He recovers better for getting clipped and has better defense. I also think his left hook is more than fast enough to catch Julian on a counter.

He wins the boxing spurts and I think he's better at disguising his punches. Much like Hearns, who would throw a jab first and had a bomb right hand that you didn't see behind it, Tito was great at masking his left hook just behind a right hand, so guys didn't see that left coming. Jackson threw big punches one at a time usually, and his big knockouts are of the single-punch variety. I think Tito sees those more easily than Jackson sees Tito's big punches.


Trinidad KO7 Jackson
Looks like we are in the minority, I like Tito by stoppage in rounds 7-9 or so.
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Old 01-26-2013, 07:24 PM   #15
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I'm not so sure Tito does recover better.

jckson was just never hurt nearly as much against the kind of fighters that dropped or rocked Tito.

Trinidad would likely need to grind jackson down to win.Doing that with his balance and legs, so-so reverse gear, slow starts and limited ability to become more safety-first in general would be a massive task.

I think he's more likely to win by mangling jackson with a big left hook and getting him out of there within a round or two. But that's not a probable outcome imo.

Jackson has a much better chance of ending things with one shot the way i see it, or landing to the extent Tito would be done very soon after.Tito was hurt enough from a guy like vargas in the mid-rounds that he felt he needed low blows to stem the tide.

he gets hit that much against Jackson, who has quicker hands and a better offence and he'd be obliterated sooner or later.

I find Tito one of the more overestimated fighters at 154 in general.he's often mentioned as one of the best ever there, and while he was formidable he did no more than a lot of fighters who don't get those props...all the while showing a reasonable amount of vulnerability whenever he fought anyone competent.Nothing to overly criticise by any means, but certainly not giving the kind of performances that merited the Tito hype train back in the late 90s\early 00s.
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