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Old 01-26-2013, 10:03 PM   #31
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:16 PM   #32
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Good post man...I agree with most of the ****ysis you did..with the onlything I disagree is with Mares beating Rigo but everybody is entitled to form his own opinion..again great ****ysis..
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:20 PM   #33
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Like his hero Floyd, he just doesnt like asians..
I used to be a big fan of Doanire until he started acting like a pansy all the time
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:21 PM   #34
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Nah, I'll let you be the "boxing expert" and just post a ban bet when Donaire-Rigondeaux goes down, one I don't expect you to take despite being a "boxing expert"

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Good post man...I agree with most of the ****ysis you did..with the onlything I disagree is with Mares beating Rigo but everybody is entitled to form his own opinion..again great ****ysis..
thanks man I'm afraid what Mares might do after watching him press Moreno like that. His stock went up a lot in that fight for me.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:25 PM   #35
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I used to be a big fan of Doanire until he started acting like a pansy all the time
yeah him getting all ****y when the cubans ragged on his wife lost me as well..lol
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:31 PM   #36
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I used to be a big fan of Doanire until he started acting like a pansy all the time
What happened to caring about what happens between the ropes? Floyd beats up women. You still a fan?
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:34 PM   #37
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Good thread.

I think we have to remember that Donaire was in a rut against Vasquez and Mathebula that showed he was trying to constantly land that one punch. He had a love spell with his power after the Montiel KO made his stock soar, and was neglecting to set up his shots, as you rightly pointed out.

If you look at the Arce fight, even though he was coming forward, Arce was fighting really smart, throwing, ducking the counter, and then coming up to throw again. If Nonito weren't on his game with his footwork and came in trying to slug it out, it would have been much more competitive. Rigo throwing with Donaire is probably better, but Donaire has shown a great ability to stay smart and collect intelligence before landing a bomb soon after.

Making Donaire lead is definitely a way to get him to make mistakes and walk into punches. Rigo is in his element fighting off the back foot or circling to look for that left uppercut to the body or short straight up top. But I think it's more likely that Donaire baits Rigo's counters, and then catches him as he steps in to throw. So instead of Rigo triggering and busting through Donaire's guard because of a wide left, I see Donaire taking a step back and throwing the left at a distance. It will be a battle of feints, and I think Nonito has a lot more experience at that level. Right hands to the body and up top, along with jab-left hook baited counters. Countering Rigo's straight left with an overhand right is another option. If both throw simultaneously, Nonito's power might prove the difference.

Rigo definitely has a shot, so your ****ysis isn't off, it's a great tactic for him to emphasize. But I think when the fight happens, It's going to look uneventful, and then awkward as Donaire starts to get off first, but not without getting caught from time to time as Rigo potshots defensively, until Rigo runs out of ideas and starts circling all confused (assuming Nonito has taken control by round 8.)
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:40 PM   #38
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Rigo doesn't have the size of Mathebula for Donaire to contend with while playing defense though, and his chin seems to be very fragile by comparison as well. And while Rigo's defense is good, he's been hurt badly by far lesser fighters. Donaire stops Rigo imo.
Yep, Mathebula is a giant at 122, Rigo is one of the smallest. Jeff also looks like he can take a punch.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:41 PM   #39
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yeah him getting all ****y when the cubans ragged on his wife lost me as well..lol
and asking for apologies all the time

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What happened to caring about what happens between the ropes? Floyd beats up women. You still a fan?
he started acting dumb inside the ropes too. I like his boxing IQ and skill and the way he fought, but his fights in between Montiel and Nishioka turned me off. He did impress me a lot in the Nishioka fight though and I gave him due respect.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:45 PM   #40
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Donaire can not handle a defense first fighter, because his offensive variation is limited. bball called this on the money, if Donaire doesn't take him out early by catching him cold, he will not win and I believe most likely will be timed and knocked out cold.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:49 PM   #41
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This is what the **** I mean - you're a troll ass *****. You want to suggest that Donaire acts like a pansy all the time, but consistently and reliably let Floyd off the hook for acting like a ***** for 3 years and missing out on 100 million dollars?

see and this is what pac****s do. They turn completely different threads into threads about Mayweather.
This is a real thread about what goes on inside the ring. Here's a thread just for you
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and Bogo, I'm about to get to your post in a second. I'm watching the UFC card
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:52 PM   #42
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Donaire can not handle a defense first fighter, because his offensive variation is limited. bball called this on the money, if Donaire doesn't take him out early by catching him cold, he will not win and I believe most likely will be timed and knocked out cold.
donaire will not press..he will jab the **** out of rigo.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:52 PM   #43
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Default Re: Why Guillermo Rigondeaux beats Nonito Donaire

thanks man I'm afraid what Mares might do after watching him press Moreno like that. His stock went up a lot in that fight for me.[/quote]

Yeah man..went up a lot for me too...I don't see him like a good fighter but he allways manage to beat the ones who I count as good fighters..some with ease others struggling..but I don't see him even touching Rigo and rigos straight left will hit him all night...but he allways proved me wrong so I wouldn't be shock if he beat Rigo..but my money will go on Rigo..
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:11 PM   #44
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Donaire can not handle a defense first fighter, because his offensive variation is limited. bball called this on the money, if Donaire doesn't take him out early by catching him cold, he will not win and I believe most likely will be timed and knocked out cold.
This is the fight...
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:12 PM   #45
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donaire will not press..he will jab the **** out of rigo.
This will be if he actually had a jab....
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