rear hook/overhand

[shs101]

Just wanted to see the effectiveness and correlation between the rear hook and overhand punch? How different are they and is there a good specific time to throw them? BTW Im a southpaw if that changes anything and just wanted to add some flavor to my rear hand. Its always dangerous fighting someone in the opposite stance due to the fear of the straight right/left but how about a rear hook or an overhand?

[r1p00pk]

omgwtf?

[Theron]

Huh i think you need to reword a bit

[rodney]

Originally Posted by Theron

Huh i think you need to reword a bit

No such punch. Maybe for a wild man. Throw straight rights only for an orthodox fighter.

[dealt_with]

Rear hook on the inside and overhand from the outside after being disguised by a jab, both good punches for a southpaw to throw.

[dealt_with]

Originally Posted by rodney

No such punch. Maybe for a wild man. Throw straight rights only for an orthodox fighter.

Why? The more weapons you have the better, Marquez and Golovkin like to throw the rear hand in different ways. If you only throw straight rights you're going to be predictable and limited in your offence.

[Mighty_Fighter]

He's a southpaw so technically it would be an overhand left / left hook.

If you're fighting an orthodox fighter, get within range (keep your lead foot on the outside of his) and fire it. Works well when your opponent is moving to your left, but in any case, the left cross is more effective.

[Speechless]

Originally Posted by dealt_with

Rear hook on the inside and overhand from the outside after being disguised by a jab, both good punches for a southpaw to throw.

Agreed.
Rear overhand is my go to punch for southpaws and taller opponents. They're usually not used to punches coming from that angle.

[Johnstown]

Originally Posted by Speechless

Agreed.
Rear overhand is my go to punch for southpaws and taller opponents. They're usually not used to punches coming from that angle.

makes some sense for a tall fighter.....but a soft paw...ehhh if you put yourself into position to land it he will hit you with his straight shot before your overhand ever lands 9 times out of 10....unless he just sucks.

[jordaw]

as a tall southpaw, if im fighting an orthodox guy and throw an overhand left, im gonna hit him on the top of the head most likely and that is just not too effective and it can mess up your hand. a left hook to the body is always good when they are backing up or if you set it up coming in with a jab or a right hook upstairs.

[rodney]

Originally Posted by dealt_with

Why? The more weapons you have the better, Marquez and Golovkin like to throw the rear hand in different ways. If you only throw straight rights you're going to be predictable and limited in your offence.

Not so.
Your opponent can see overhand looping punches a mile away.
Not so with a straight right.
You hide it by keeping close to your side.
Plus much more power in a straight right.
Your never predictable if you can box, feint, and use your jab to set up your punches.
Plus overhand, looping punches are arm punches --- no real power.
Much more power in a straight right , which when thrown properly rolls off your body.
Now go ahead and do what you want.
I hate to see beginners get sucked in by your comments.

[Speechless]

Originally Posted by Johnstown

makes some sense for a tall fighter.....but a soft paw...ehhh if you put yourself into position to land it he will hit you with his straight shot before your overhand ever lands 9 times out of 10....unless he just sucks.

True, but then I block his straight left with my forearm, like they do in kung-fu movies, then twist his arm back and push it into his nose making him punch himself in the face. Then land 6 consecutive strikes to his abdomen and when he crouches down I karate chop his neck.

In all seriousness, yes all punches have the potential for predictability, but my right overhand is usually set up with a jab, or double-jab, accompanied by a slip to the left and a left hook to the body.
So of course, it can be countered just like anything else - that's why it's important to a) set it up and b) not over use it.

[dealt_with]

Originally Posted by rodney

Not so.
Your opponent can see overhand looping punches a mile away.
Not so with a straight right.
You hide it by keeping close to your side.
Plus much more power in a straight right.
Your never predictable if you can box, feint, and use your jab to set up your punches.
Plus overhand, looping punches are arm punches --- no real power.
Much more power in a straight right , which when thrown properly rolls off your body.
Now go ahead and do what you want.
I hate to see beginners get sucked in by your comments.

A straight right is a great punch. But your only punch with your rear hand? That's idiotic. The most force you can get out of any punch in boxing is the rear hand hook, there are scientific studies with high level boxers showing that. Your opponent can see an overhand shot from a mile away if you don't disguise it first with a jab or feint, yes. You can see a straight right immediately as well if that's the only way you fire your rear hand, the more variety in your punches the more you slow down your opponents reactions. Overhand punches are arm punches? You obviously are a beginner if you think you're only allowed to throw a straight right and nothing else.

[dealt_with]

Originally Posted by Speechless

True, but then I block his straight left with my forearm, like they do in kung-fu movies, then twist his arm back and push it into his nose making him punch himself in the face. Then land 6 consecutive strikes to his abdomen and when he crouches down I karate chop his neck.

In all seriousness, yes all punches have the potential for predictability, but my right overhand is usually set up with a jab, or double-jab, accompanied by a slip to the left and a left hook to the body.
So of course, it can be countered just like anything else - that's why it's important to a) set it up and b) not over use it.

Don't bother explaining it to Johnstown, he's a fat guy who likes to pretend to be a boxer. And he seems to think every punch has to be thrown on it's own, no way can you feint, time and trick your opponent into expecting something else before throwing the overhand

[VanillaKilla]

Originally Posted by rodney

Not so.
Your opponent can see overhand looping punches a mile away.
Not so with a straight right.
You hide it by keeping close to your side.
Plus much more power in a straight right.
Your never predictable if you can box, feint, and use your jab to set up your punches.
Plus overhand, looping punches are arm punches --- no real power.
Much more power in a straight right , which when thrown properly rolls off your body.
Now go ahead and do what you want.
I hate to see beginners get sucked in by your comments.

Looping and Overhand punches definitely have their place in boxing.

Once you have mastered a straight right, you can slightly arc it to slip around an opponents guard or over his jab. Aiming at an opponents temple or ear/jaw area.

I don't think its any less powerful since the body mechanics are pretty similar with both punches (shifting you're body weight by rotating you're hips).

If you're opponent defends against you're right straight by blocking with his left or slipping to his left.... It only makes sense to slight arch you're punch