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Old 01-27-2013, 05:15 PM   #1
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With a resume like this:

W Yuiriokis Gamboa (Beast)
W Chris John (beat Juan Manuel Marquez arguably)
W Orlando Salido (beat Robert Guerrero and Juanma)
W Mikey Garcia (beat Salido)
W Billy Dib
W Daniel Ponce De Leon (beat Broner arguably)
W Abner Mares (beat the solid Moreno)
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W Jorge Arce
W Toshiaki Nishioka
W Jeffery Mathubela
W Wilfredo Vazquez Jr
W Omar Andres Narvaez
W Fernando Montiel
W Volodymyr Sydorenko
W Hernan Marquez
W Moruti Mthalane
W Luis Maldonado
W Vic Darchinyan
- He dominated virtually every single opponent here in great style.
He would be a 5 weight champion.

Does he have a good shout? If not, where would you put him?
Not interested in responses from those who masturbate EXCESSIVELY over old timers who aren't even that great, and put the likes of Ray Leonard past top 25 for example lol
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:17 PM   #2
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IF he compiles that resume...**** yeah. probably. maybe




fighting harada
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:24 PM   #3
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IF he compiles that resume...**** yeah. probably. maybe




fighting harada
His skill level is on a different class to these top fighters.
Nonito's resume is already stacked with LEGIT champions, not phony champs.

Fighting Harada is solid but I'd still have Donaire over Harada.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:25 PM   #4
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Billy Dib.
lol I had no comment to support Dib, I know Arum will throw him in with the likes of Dib/Jhonny Gonzalez etc. to get a little more dollar.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:27 PM   #5
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Billy Dib.
did my post summon the might of FIGHTING HARADA!!!
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:28 PM   #6
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Sure. Maybe. Hmm...


Packey McFarland.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:28 PM   #7
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did my post summon the might of FIGHTING HARADA!!!
is Harada a definite Top 50 for you?
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:29 PM   #8
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His skill level is on a different class to these top fighters.
Nonito's resume is already stacked with LEGIT champions, not phony champs.

Fighting Harada is solid but I'd still have Donaire over Harada.
whose skill is above which fighters? the one's he hasn't faced yet. absolutely agree. very curious how he matches up with garcia and gamboa though.

still his resume would probably well warrant top 50 position. who knows where those fighters will be themselves when they retire?
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:38 PM   #9
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That's hardly much of a list of names in and of itself.You can count one hand how many very good prime fighters beaten at their best weightclass are in there, even if he theoretically had them all won right now.

Arce? C'mon maybe nine\ten years ago that would have been a good win..even 5\6 years ago.I didn't check a single thing that anyone was saying in the general on that fight as it held not the least interest as a competitive matchup for me, but surely no one thought it was anything other than a gimme?

If you're asking if having those wins would automatically make him a lock for anyone who cares to venture at top 50 all-time great list? Then i'd say no they should not.

It would be impressive and comparable to various other excellent and great fighters around those weights, especially just for consistently beating who is in front of him and weight jumping(though somewhat diluted by how much easier it his to cut weight now, Donaire was hardly a comfortable natural Fly) if not for having many wins against genuinely really good fighters, but not THAT impressive.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:44 PM   #10
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He'd be well above 50 if he compiled that list. As it is he won't get any real big defining fights though, unfortunately.
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is Harada a definite Top 50 for you?
it's more than following my post, Orriray came on with a fighting harada avatar. plus, he's the new hipster favourite on here

but harada may skirt the bottom of my top 50
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:54 PM   #12
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Sure. Maybe. Hmm...


Packey McFarland.
The guys in my top 50 already
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:02 PM   #13
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His skill level is on a different class to these top fighters.
Nonito's resume is already stacked with LEGIT champions, not phony champs.

Fighting Harada is solid but I'd still have Donaire over Harada.


How are we defining a phony champ here?

His record is stacked with mediocre to solid alphabet champs who won and defended titles against a motley assortion of cans, marginal talents and tough journeymen(usually even looking bad against them in the process.

Darchinyan, Sidorenko, Marquez, Mthalane, Montiel, Narvaez, Vasquez jr

A lot of these guys are or were the definition of weak titlists.Even if some had their year or two of hype like Vic and Montiel.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:05 PM   #14
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Default Re: Nonito donaire, a top 50 atg?

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With a resume like this:

W Yuiriokis Gamboa (Beast)
W Chris John (beat Juan Manuel Marquez arguably)
W Orlando Salido (beat Robert Guerrero and Juanma)
W Mikey Garcia (beat Salido)
W Billy Dib
W Daniel Ponce De Leon (beat Broner arguably)
W Abner Mares (beat the solid Moreno)
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W Jorge Arce
W Toshiaki Nishioka
W Jeffery Mathubela
W Wilfredo Vazquez Jr
W Omar Andres Narvaez
W Fernando Montiel
W Volodymyr Sydorenko
W Hernan Marquez
W Moruti Mthalane
W Luis Maldonado
W Vic Darchinyan
- He dominated virtually every single opponent here in great style.
He would be a 5 weight champion.

Does he have a good shout? If not, where would you put him?
Not interested in responses from those who masturbate EXCESSIVELY over old timers who aren't even that great, and put the likes of Ray Leonard past top 25 for example lol
With a career like the one above. I think he wold be with in the top 50, at least in the conversation.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:06 PM   #15
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it's more than following my post, Orriray came on with a fighting harada avatar. plus, he's the new hipster favourite on here

but harada may skirt the bottom of my top 50




Harada has got a lot of credit and been well respected for at least half a decade on here, ever since the board had any posters who had interest in Fly\bantam really.he was the consensus greatest ever asian until Pac had his success at 140 and 147.Then things got divided.

Not sure i'd consider him a top 50 fighter either, all said, but he's no new flavour of the month.
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