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Old 01-28-2013, 04:15 PM   #31
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Doesn't bode well for Wlad. Holy has great lateral movement and great inside game. Top class combo puncher to boot.
Exactly, and lets not forget his work rate in his prime.. he was a beast no way Wlad at any point in Wlads career does he beat a Prime Evander Holyfield
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:19 PM   #32
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Funny you should say this Brewster, Sanders and Puritty all found a way to beat Wlad, and your here suggesting that the higher skilled Holyfield wouldnt find a way to get behind that jab?

Wlads chin is always the factor in fights like this, and to suggest Holyfield cant hurt him is just out right stupid.

Wlad would never be able to go through what Bowe was able to go through with Evander, he would never have seen the finish line.

and if your going to tell me Wlad pot shots and boxes Holyfield to a decision your crazy Nobody was able to do that against a Prime Holyfield and Wlad is no exception here.
are we really going to compare a Wlad from almost a decade ago?

i mean lets take a look at a list of fighers who beat holyfield (i dont really want to but for arguments sake... if we go based on yoru logic)

1) john ruiz 2001 (Wlad's idol)
2) chris byrd 2002 (Wlad victem)
3) james toney 2003 (burgerking victem)
4) Larry donald 2004 (vitaly victem)

list goes on, i know those loses weren't prime holyfield... but what is prime holyfield? Would you consider the holyfield that lost to Michael Moorer a prime holyfield?

Wlad has his loses, and he will likely lose again but he has the ability to execute a winning strategy 6+ times out of 10 vs holyfield imho.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:20 PM   #33
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i mean a winning strategy against a prime holyfield
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:40 PM   #34
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:42 PM   #35
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not prime, but right now it would be a 50-50 fight
yeah till the match gets made then all you fag haters will start blubbering for holyfields heath
and and why the **** quitcho gots to jab so much he'd never jab agianst any of the great ones lmmforaromlafao ..
lewis was tapping that ass till he made them quit ROFLA round 7 tko

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Old 01-28-2013, 06:04 PM   #36
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not prime, but right now it would be a 50-50 fight
STFU you retarded troll.
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:05 PM   #37
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Lets look at some of Holyfield's losses and close fights

- dominated by Chris Byrd, who was destroyed twice by Wlad and dominated by one armed Vitali

- dominated by Larry Donald, who was annihilated by Vitali (was the only man to knockdown and KO Donald)

- dominated by Sultan Ibragimov, who was dominated by Wlad

- KTFO by James Toney, who lost twice to Sam Peter, who was destroyed and ruined by the Klitschkos

- drew and lost to John Ruiz, who lost to 3 Wlad victims (Haye, Chagaev, Nicholson)

- lost twice to Lennox Lewis, who was dominated and retired by Vitali

- lost twice to Riddick Bowe, who was destroyed twice by Andrew Golota, who was KTFO by 4 Klitschko victims (Adamek, Brewster, Austin, Lewis)

- went life and death with Vaughn Bean, who was destroyed by Vitali (was the only man to KO Bean)

- went life and death with Ray Mercer, who was annihilated by Wlad (was the first man to knockdown and KO Mercer)

Wlad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holyfield

Vitali >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holyfield

Either Klitschko destroys any version of Holyfield.
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:14 PM   #38
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Holyfield of just 6 years ago would be more competitive than Wlad's last 4 opponents. Holyfield would at least know what to do it's just a matter of whether he can actually do it.

A prime Holyfield fixes Wlad up good.
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:18 PM   #39
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Foreman said Holyfields left hook to the body was the heaviest left hook to the body he has ever felt.....
Holyfield was never a huge puncher, certainly not a one-shot wonder. He always relied on combinations.

Holyfields only bet vs. Wlad would be Wlad gassing himself out on Holyfield's good chin and then unleashing some up-close combos on Wlad's chin. If Wlad's stamina holds up then Holyfield is without much of a chance. He'll be routinely jabbed and grabbed and he won't know what to do.
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:18 PM   #40
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Lets look at some of Holyfield's losses and close fights

- dominated by Chris Byrd, who was destroyed twice by Wlad and dominated by one armed Vitali

- dominated by Larry Donald, who was annihilated by Vitali (was the only man to knockdown and KO Donald)

- dominated by Sultan Ibragimov, who was dominated by Wlad

- KTFO by James Toney, who lost twice to Sam Peter, who was destroyed and ruined by the Klitschkos

- drew and lost to John Ruiz, who lost to 3 Wlad victims (Haye, Chagaev, Nicholson)

- lost twice to Lennox Lewis, who was dominated and retired by Vitali

- lost twice to Riddick Bowe, who was destroyed twice by Andrew Golota, who was KTFO by 4 Klitschko victims (Adamek, Brewster, Austin, Lewis)

- went life and death with Vaughn Bean, who was destroyed by Vitali (was the only man to KO Bean)

- went life and death with Ray Mercer, who was annihilated by Wlad (was the first man to knockdown and KO Mercer)

Wlad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holyfield

Vitali >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holyfield

Either Klitschko destroys any version of Holyfield.
True klitschko fans are embarrassed by fans like you
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:18 PM   #41
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You guys are ****ing insane, Wlad has lost to much lesser fighters A prime Evander takes him to the wood shed.

Wlad would get knocked out a Prime Wlad vs Prime Evander I say TKO 6 Holyfield.

Wlad would never be able to deal with that Version of Evander his chin and heart would not be able to hold up
Styles make fights.

The boxers that defeated that immature version of Wlad a decade ago were big, physical, power punching heavyweights. Evander fights nothing like Sanders or Brewster and doesn't pose the same physical match ups.
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:35 PM   #42
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One dimensional Wlad would have no answer against a technician like prime Holyfield. He'd be gassed out from the workrate and tko'd mid rounds.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:15 PM   #43
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Styles make fights.

The boxers that defeated that immature version of Wlad a decade ago were big, physical, power punching heavyweights. Evander fights nothing like Sanders or Brewster and doesn't pose the same physical match ups.
you want to talk about styles make fights, Holyfield is a nightmare for Wlad. Holyfield is one of the most complete fighters ever. He can fight agressively, box, side to side, up and down, over and under, front to back, it's a goddamn disaster for Wlad. Wlad on the other hand has to have it his way the whole time. Nothing can go wrong, or it REALLY goes wrong. Holyfield by KO any round he wants after the 3rd round, after he figures out what Wlad brings to the table. Wladimir never had to deal with a mother****er like Holyfield. He gets hit with one right hand from a slow, plodding Wach and covers up on the ropes in a position you'll never see him in voluntarily ever. Sure Wlad can frustrate Holyfield with his bear hug tactics, but Holyfield's will and skill is too strong. If it even makes it to the late rounds, while Wlad is gassing, Holyfield is just getting started. It won't take many hard shots from Holyfield to put Wlad down.
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True klitschko fans are embarrassed by fans like you
My post must have struck a nerve.

Either Klitschko destroys any version of Holyfield.

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Old 01-28-2013, 07:34 PM   #45
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It would be horrible to see
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