John Conteh vs. Andre Ward

[Lilo]

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

"AndyPaterson"

I would respectfully point out that you're in a minority yourself picking Conteh by stoppage...

Ward got noticeably hurt once, eight years ago, while still a green novice - yes, by a journeyman, but a top-shelf journeyman who's made a regular habit of giving unbeaten youngsters a hard night. (and by whom Adonis Stevenson was KTFO).

Since then his punch resistance and poise have proven immaculate.

Yep, but he's never fought at light heavy and never fought anyone as good as Conteh.

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by Lilo

Yep, but he's never fought at light heavy and never fought anyone as good as Conteh.

Fair enough, but that's a highly conjectural basis.

Say he moves up and takes whatever the current best at 175 can dish out, would you amend your stance to Conteh on points or is there naught Ward can realistically prove to sway you?

[Lilo]

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

Fair enough, but that's a highly conjectural basis.

Say he moves up and takes whatever the current best at 175 can dish out, would you amend your stance to Conteh on points or is there naught Ward can realistically prove to sway you?

Truthfully, the LHW division is so weak at the minute that I'd still favour Conteh over him which is very unfortunate for Ward as there just doesn't seem to be a good enough test for him.

If Conteh was around now he'd be clear no.1 LHW IMO, without a doubt.

But yeah if he shows he is strong/durable at the weight (which he probably will be) then I'd prob change to Conteh points. I just don't give out credit based on potential, especially when we've never seen the guy at that weight AND especially against a Brit!

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by Lilo

If Conteh was around now he'd be clear no.1 LHW IMO, without a doubt.

This I definitely agree with.

He would make Dawson cry. Literally, in front of millions. McCall style.

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by Lilo

But yeah if he shows he is strong/durable at the weight (which he probably will be) then I'd prob change to Conteh points. I just don't give out credit based on potential, especially when we've never seen the guy at that weight AND especially against a Brit!

Well, Froch is a Brit.

...and, I'd wager, Froch has a close enough approximation of light heavyweight strength even at 168. He more than held his own against Pascal, who's a bull since moving up. I don't think it's entirely attributable to Pascal being drained, either. Froch is a strong bastard. Obviously he's miles behind Conteh in technical proficiency and diversity, but as a barometer of Ward's ability to handle another eight pounds of world class athlete bearing down on him he suits well enough.

[IntentionalButt]

[IntentionalButt]

Again, tied at 19.

Every time one takes a lead...

(and that's how I think it would go, too )

[Boro chris]

If I could vote 42 times for Conteh I would. Alas however....

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by Boro chris

If I could vote 42 times for Conteh I would. Alas however....

No alts? Good man.

[IntentionalButt]

I'm wondering how different the poll would look in General.

[Boro chris]

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

No alts? Good man.

I have alts. Just forgotten the fucking passwords.

Oh and as for a poll in the gf? Don't even fucking joke about it!

[biglads]

Cleverley would whup them both.




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