Sparring vid. Tips?

[RDJ]

Originally Posted by mrtony80

No, you took offense to my saying that you don't seem like the athletic type based on your esb persona. I didn't mean anything by it. The way you act on here you seem more like a practical joker or comedian than a athlete, what with all the alts, and trolling and whatnot. I also never saw you talk about boxing at all, until I started coming to the training forum.

As far as taking criticism, it doesn't bother me at all whatsoever, not even RDJ's video of the kids. I welcome criticism, even if it isn't tastefully done. Tell you what, though. I think we're sparring today. I'll post a much better example of what I can do in there...

I showed you a more than decent sparring video.

[Melchior]

Originally Posted by mrtony80

No, you took offense to my saying that you don't seem like the athletic type based on your esb persona. I didn't mean anything by it. The way you act on here you seem more like a practical joker or comedian than a athlete, what with all the alts, and trolling and whatnot. I also never saw you talk about boxing at all, until I started coming to the training forum.

As far as taking criticism, it doesn't bother me at all whatsoever, not even RDJ's video of the kids. I welcome criticism, even if it isn't tastefully done. Tell you what, though. I think we're sparring today. I'll post a much better example of what I can do in there...

So athletes can't be practical jokers? All "athletic types" have the same persona? Come on!

Do it

[mrtony80]

Originally Posted by RDJ

I showed you a more than decent sparring video.

...of 11 year olds. Plenty of vids of great sparring that doesn't features children. Seems like you were being sarcastic.

[RDJ]

Originally Posted by mrtony80

...of 11 year olds. Plenty of vids of great sparring that doesn't features children. Seems like you were being sarcastic.

... highly skilled 11 year olds sparring with intention. Seems like you weren't very welcoming of criticism.

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by mrtony80

...of 11 year olds. Plenty of vids of great sparring that doesn't features children. Seems like you were being sarcastic.

What's the big deal? The 11 year olds were fucking good.

[mrtony80]

Originally Posted by RDJ

... highly skilled 11 year olds sparring with intention. Seems like you weren't very welcoming of criticism.

Oh, come on, man. You know damn well you were being funny. The kids were obviously advanced, but you chose them in particular to drive your point home that the video I posted was weak, i.e., this is what kids can do, and you can't...

I am welcoming of criticism, that why I initially asked for your opinion before making a thread. You and I have been going at it for years now. If I was so against harsh criticism, I definitely wouldn't have asked YOUR opinion.

[El Puma]

Originally Posted by mrtony80

Oh, come on, man. You know damn well you were being funny. The kids were obviously advanced, but you chose them in particular to drive your point home that the video I posted was weak, i.e., this is what kids can do, and you can't...

I am welcoming of criticism, that why I initially asked for your opinion before making a thread. You and I have been going at it for years now. If I was so against harsh criticism, I definitely wouldn't have asked YOUR opinion.

You are a weak minded individual.

[mrtony80]

Wow, it's been awhile. Almost forgot about you, but this is still all I see...

This message is hidden because El Puma is on your ignore list.

So, what are we doing? Are we squashing this bullshit now? Letting bygones be bygones? Of course, I still won't know what you said unless someone quotes it... I having a burning feeling that whatever you just wrote above wasn't positive.

[Melchior]

I agree with puma.

And Those kids are badass!

[RDJ]

Originally Posted by mrtony80

Oh, come on, man. You know damn well you were being funny. The kids were obviously advanced, but you chose them in particular to drive your point home that the video I posted was weak, i.e., this is what kids can do, and you can't...

Negative. I posted this particular video because it's one of my favourite sparring vids and the first one that popped in my mind. I posted this same video on facebook and several times already on this forum.

Btw. I can't do what these kids do either, they are more advanced than I am in most if not all aspects.

Originally Posted by mrtony80

I am welcoming of criticism, that why I initially asked for your opinion before making a thread. You and I have been going at it for years now. If I was so against harsh criticism, I definitely wouldn't have asked YOUR opinion.

Which is why I didn't quite get your PM, but fair enough I guess there is some truth to this statement.

[mrtony80]

Fair enough, RDJ. Here's another sparring session, although it is still a poor example, considering it was 6th round, 6th sparring partner... and exercise my trainer calls suicide. 3 minute rounds with 1 minute rest in between, a fresh partner coming in there with you after everyone around. Suicide indeed.

[r1p00pk]

Originally Posted by mrtony80

Fair enough, RDJ. Here's another sparring session, although it is still a poor example, considering it was 6th round, 6th sparring partner... and exercise my trainer calls suicide. 3 minute rounds with 1 minute rest in between, a fresh partner coming in there with you after everyone around. Suicide indeed.

why the fck does your trainer make you do this shit. what ever happened to normal training

[mrtony80]

Originally Posted by r1p00pk

why the fck does your trainer make you do this shit. what ever happened to normal training

He says it's all about having to deal with two things - stamina, and dealing with different styles. Makes a lot of sense, imo, although it is some hard work. That video was the last round, and the five previous all had differences I had to deal with, e.g., one guy was 6'3, so I had to work on fighting a much taller opponent, which if I ever decide to compete, I'm going to have to do, because I refuse to drop any weight off my 5'6, 147 frame. Another guy was short, but good at inside fighting, so I had to deal with that. By the time it got to the chick in the video, there wasn't much benefit to that style-wise, but regarding stamina, yeah. I was fucking exhausted, though.

I've been to a lot of boxing gyms, and heard a lot of training techniques, but this thing with fighting opponents with different styles ever round is genius to me, something all boxing gyms should do. Done correctly, and with commitment, it could build a fighter with FMJ type ability to adjust to his opponent.

[RichC]

Originally Posted by mrtony80

He says it's all about having to deal with two things - stamina, and dealing with different styles. Makes a lot of sense, imo, although it is some hard work. That video was the last round, and the five previous all had differences I had to deal with, e.g., one guy was 6'3, so I had to work on fighting a much taller opponent, which if I ever decide to compete, I'm going to have to do, because I refuse to drop any weight off my 5'6, 147 frame. Another guy was short, but good at inside fighting, so I had to deal with that. By the time it got to the chick in the video, there wasn't much benefit to that style-wise, but regarding stamina, yeah. I was fucking exhausted, though.

I've been to a lot of boxing gyms, and heard a lot of training techniques, but this thing with fighting opponents with different styles ever round is genius to me, something all boxing gyms should do. Done correctly, and with commitment, it could build a fighter with FMJ type ability to adjust to his opponent.

Changing opponents every round or 2 is fine. Many gyms do this.

However I don't think a novice will gain much from sparring (or rather, trying to survive haha) through extreme fatigue like you were in the last round.

You need to be working on boxing skills / technique whilst sparring. You can work on your fitness through shadow boxing, bag work, pad work and general strength and conditioning work.

Good effort though mate.

[dealt_with]

Originally Posted by mrtony80

Fair enough, RDJ. Here's another sparring session, although it is still a poor example, considering it was 6th round, 6th sparring partner... and exercise my trainer calls suicide. 3 minute rounds with 1 minute rest in between, a fresh partner coming in there with you after everyone around. Suicide indeed.

What the fuck? A girl throwing around and beating up a larger, grown man. You were just a live boxing bag for the coaches female boxer, have some damn pride man. Find a trainer who is interested in teaching you the fundamentals of boxing and take it from there. That training isn't helpful for you at all, your stance is terrible and you need to stop bending over to stare at the ground, that's not defence.