Nigel Benn & The Essex boys

[PityTheFool]

Originally Posted by Peter__1987

As for O'Mahoney he just seems like a fucking idiot to me, I'm not saying I have intimate knowledge of how The Essex Boys firm worked or anything but it seems to like he was basically just a doorman for them who seen an opportunity to make a few quid and become one of these 'celebrity gangsters' and seized it with both hands.

If you want a good insight into all this read Carlton Leach's book Muscle, I'm well aware that like the average 'hardman' book he probably bends the truth here and there but it seems fairly honest for the most part, he doesn't make himself out to be some invincible street fighting machine or pretends that he was an international criminal or anything like that, it's mostly just stories about what happened around the time The Essex Boys were all running wild full of Steroids and any recreational drug they could get their hands on.

And it has a few chapters about Benn too.

Decent read, if your interested in this kinda stuff.

Leach is a bullshitter mate.Him and Tucker were so terrified of going to the garage that I don't doubt for a second both would have sold their kids' eyes to stay out.
And Tucker should've been got much sooner for that disgraceful barnet!
Tate should've took the clippers to that midden of a haircut purely out of embarrassment for being seen with Tucker.

[Peter__1987]

Originally Posted by PityTheFool

Leach is a bullshitter mate.Him and Tucker were so terrified of going to the garage that I don't doubt for a second both would have sold their kids' eyes to stay out.
And Tucker should've been got much sooner for that disgraceful barnet!
Tate should've took the clippers to that midden of a haircut purely out of embarrassment for being seen with Tucker.

I'm sure Leach does lie about a lot mate (like all hardmen do) what I was alluding too was in comparison to the rest of the 'celebrity gangsters' he's not THAT bad.

Have you read his book? He doesn't actually make very many outlandish claims at all.

[PityTheFool]

Originally Posted by Peter__1987

I'm sure Leach does lie about a lot mate (like all hardmen do) what I was alluding too was in comparison to the rest of the 'celebrity gangsters' he's not THAT bad.

Have you read his book? He doesn't actually make very many outlandish claims at all.

I read it a few years ago mate.Actually it was a good bit before he had the movie so he was just another criminal-turned-author whose book I read because it was lying about.
The only thing that stuck in my mind was when he talked of never having been to jail but had come close..blah,blah.
A good sign of a successful criminal is someone who's never been to jail and it's only an indication of failure if you have been,but when guys like Leach feel the need to justify not having been,my bullshit filter goes onto Code Red,and it's a big ask to regain even a modicum of credibility after that.
Bottom line is he tried to make a celebrity name for himself purely on the basis of being close friends with a dead bully.
Not my cup of tea mate,but it's only my opinion.

[Will]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Whats the deal with Noye? I had never heard a peep about the man until the road rage incident. Since then bits and pieces have come out that he was a major player in the under world. Am I just not ITK or was he a very quiet man going about his business?

Common knowledge even on wiki that it was no roadrage incident allegedley.

Stephen Cameron allegedly was a drug dealer.

He owed Noye money.

Almost everybody on the roundabout at the time was a gangland figure. Just look at the witnesses in the case.

Noye goes may back to the Big famous Gold job.

[TIGEREDGE]

Originally Posted by Peter__1987

As for O'Mahoney he just seems like a fucking idiot to me, I'm not saying I have intimate knowledge of how The Essex Boys firm worked or anything but it seems to like he was basically just a doorman for them who seen an opportunity to make a few quid and become one of these 'celebrity gangsters' and seized it with both hands.

If you want a good insight into all this read Carlton Leach's book Muscle, I'm well aware that like the average 'hardman' book he probably bends the truth here and there but it seems fairly honest for the most part, he doesn't make himself out to be some invincible street fighting machine or pretends that he was an international criminal or anything like that, it's mostly just stories about what happened around the time The Essex Boys were all running wild full of Steroids and any recreational drug they could get their hands on.

And it has a few chapters about Benn too.

Decent read, if your interested in this kinda stuff.

his books (bernrd o mahoney) ive read on essex are well written and seem accurate its just when yer read up more on mahoney you start having major doubts

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Will

Common knowledge even on wiki that it was no roadrage incident allegedley.

Stephen Cameron allegedly was a drug dealer.

He owed Noye money.

Almost everybody on the roundabout at the time was a gangland figure. Just look at the witnesses in the case.

Noye goes may back to the Big famous Gold job.

Yeah, Iv read that.

Watched that documentary about him getting away with killing the Police officer. Interesting watch.

Why would Noye's name be brought in to the Essex boys killing theories though?

[lordgore]

Originally Posted by TIGEREDGE

his books (bernrd o mahoney) ive read on essex are well written and seem accurate its just when yer read up more on mahoney you start having major doubts

Or when you see and listen to the bloke,anyone remember him on that Danny Dyer show?

[Peter__1987]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Why would Noye's name be brought in to the Essex boys killing theories though?

I think he was just one of the main villians around at the time and supposedly had lent Tate money on a few occasions.

[Peter__1987]

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10 minutes on, Benn and Leach.

They actually seem like really good mates to be fair.

[lordgore]

Originally Posted by Peter__1987

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10 minutes on, Benn and Leach.

They actually seem like really good mates to be fair.

Kate Kray , the only real HARD BASTARD in that episode,was Benn.

[redandwhiterob]

Originally Posted by Peter__1987

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10 minutes on, Benn and Leach.

They actually seem like really good mates to be fair.

Seems off his rocker on coke in most of that video

[Peter__1987]

Originally Posted by redandwhiterob

Seems off his rocker on coke in most of that video

Who Leach? I thought he just looked normal really.

[Peter__1987]

Originally Posted by lordgore

Kate Kray , the only real HARD BASTARD in that episode,was Benn.

Very true. kinda sad when you see middle aged men in these documentaries isn't it?

They need to learn to grow old gracefully.

[lordgore]

Originally Posted by Peter__1987

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10 minutes on, Benn and Leach.

They actually seem like really good mates to be fair.

Originally Posted by Peter__1987

Very true. kinda sad when you see middle aged men in these documentaries isn't it?

They need to learn to grow old gracefully.

Yep,to be fair to Leach he doesn't seem to bad,seems to be somewhat at peace with himself .. then again having two of your mates blown away would probably do that,i'd imagine when he got that call he thought "fuck,need to sort my life out".Although not as bad as Tate he was still no doubt involved in stupid shit.What gets me is how Mahoney is still above ground,the guy is a fucking snake .. gets chummy with these sorts,writes his books then sits on his forum slagging them off allday,absolute knobber.

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