Most deluded boxer?

[JonnyBGoode]

I'd say his claim that himself and Pacquiao are the "best offensive fighters" is slightly deluded given that he has been beaten 3 times by slightly unheralded opponents and is yet to avenge those defeats. How can you be the best offensively if 3 guys have already beaten you and two of them have knocked you out?

[rampant]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGoode

I'd say his claim that himself and Pacquiao are the "best offensive fighters" is slightly deluded given that he has been beaten 3 times by slightly unheralded opponents and is yet to avenge those defeats. How can you be the best offensively if 3 guys have already beaten you and two of them have knocked you out?

ok based on that response, all boxers are deluded!

[ero-sennin]

Originally Posted by miguel2010

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was wrong there eh.

figures you'd like that second video since you've made no attempt to hide the fact you're a racist yourself. How you've not been banned I don't know. Classy stuff

[JonnyBGoode]

Originally Posted by rampant

ok based on that response, all boxers are deluded!

I think we have already covered that, they have to have a certain element of delusion to fight in the first place and need that inner confidence.

A better thread title would be "boxers that make the most outlandish statements with little evidence to back it up" and then we can all discuss it without coming back to the idea that anything anyone says is delusion rather than simply trash talk or fight selling.

Khan for me makes some incredibly outlandish statements! Is that better?!

[rampant]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGoode

I think we have already covered that, they have to have a certain element of delusion to fight in the first place and need that inner confidence.

A better thread title would be "boxers that make the most outlandish statements with little evidence to back it up" and then we can all discuss it without coming back to the idea that anything anyone says is delusion rather than simply trash talk or fight selling.

Khan for me makes some incredibly outlandish statements! Is that better?!

Better thanks!

[daddycool]

Ike ibeabuchi....quite literally

[Addie]

Originally Posted by boranbkk

Paul McCloskey, Paul McCloskey & more Paul McCloskey.

Oh andof course the Bragadocious Bhangra Bad Bwoy.......... Uzzy "Apache Indian" Ahmed!

Unbelievable. Imagine getting disposed of like that after that entrance.

[jcairns1]

Paul McCloskey
Paul Smith
James Degale
Martin Rogan

[knockout artist]

Originally Posted by ero-sennin

Yeah Toney did come to mind, but like you I'm not sure if people like Toney and Holyfield believe what they say or if they are just looking for paydays. Steve Collins? For thinking RJJ was scared of him? That's pretty deluded.

Both Holyfield and Toney are both broke and looking to cash out IMO. Likewise I don't think they genuinely believe what they say. Shame that both are at this point of desperation

As for those listing the likes of Khan and DeGale - These guys have both fought at top level, and are looking to be world champions and the best in their divisions. They have to believe they're the best in the world

[xRedx]

Originally Posted by PaulieMc

Evander Holyfield in the last 10 years deserves a shout too. He's 50 yet still thinks he'd beat either of the Klitschkos if they gave him a shot. Said last year he'd retire if they didn't call him by the end of the week and when they didn't he backtracked and changed his mind.

Come on Evander, first it was funny, then it was embarrassing and now it's got to the point where it's just plain sad.

I think he can do it if he believes in himself and works hard.

[smigga#1]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGoode

I'd say his claim that himself and Pacquiao are the "best offensive fighters" is slightly deluded given that he has been beaten 3 times by slightly unheralded opponents and is yet to avenge those defeats. How can you be the best offensively if 3 guys have already beaten you and two of them have knocked you out?

wouldnt that just mean his defence sucked rather than his offense? just saying...

[Rangersfan1982]

Kahn the clown

[jonnytightlips]

Originally Posted by ero-sennin

Good post. Anyone who has ambitions of greatness in life can relate to these guys somewhat. When you are trying to achieve something difficult, it's only natural for people to doubt you or tell you that you are wasting your time. They are only being realistic. The odds are against you, and only a very small percentage can reach the top. So these people that are saying you are better off doing something else are only being realistic. They are looking at the statistics and saying "only 0.001% of people can do it" or whatever the figure may be. What they can't measure is human desire. It does take a certain amount of delusion to make it to the top, so I can understand why these guys believe in their goals, because no one else is going to do it for them. If they were also realistic, they wouldn't get anywhere. Some of the goals they have are very unrealistic (for example, Khan ever challenging Mayweather or becoming p4p number 1) but like I said, you can't measure desire, and sometimes although these guys fail to reach their goal, they still come far.

Audley Harrison is a perfect example. Look at the ridicule he gets. "The biggest joke in British boxing". "The biggest clown in the heavyweight division. A joker". Is he deluded? Yeah he is, but look where it's gotten him. Multi-millionaire living the good life with his family, Olympic gold medalist and European Champ. Being called a clown by people who work in a shitty job, are generally miserable and will never even have ambitions of achieving greatness, never mind actually doing it. Clown people who are clowns in every area of their life (financially, socially, physically, intellectually, mentally) are trying to clown successful people (not that I have a problem with making fun of fighters, because I do it myself. We all have fighters we love and fighters we dislike, but I have never considered people like Audley jokers or a clowns of life). You can dislike these fighters, but you have to understand that they are winners.





Yeah Toney did come to mind, but like you I'm not sure if people like Toney and Holyfield believe what they say or if they are just looking for paydays. Steve Collins? For thinking RJJ was scared of him? That's pretty deluded.

Post of the year.

[DirtMcGirt]

Charlie Zelenoff!

[joegrundy]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGoode

I'd say his claim that himself and Pacquiao are the "best offensive fighters" is slightly deluded given that he has been beaten 3 times by slightly unheralded opponents and is yet to avenge those defeats. How can you be the best offensively if 3 guys have already beaten you and two of them have knocked you out?

Isn't this down to his shocking defense rather than offense?