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Old 01-29-2013, 03:34 AM   #46
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He should stick to kickboxing and MMA, there's a hundred Eastern European kids his age that would batter him in boxing. The US system doesn't produce good boxers, you can see technically he makes a lot of obvious mistakes and like any half decent US boxer he wants to keep his hands down for some reason. He doesn't look particularly athletic, will have to see how he looks after he goes through puberty.
There are even more Thai kids that would batter him into a bloody pulp.
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:41 AM   #47
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He looks to be a better kick boxer than boxer. I think he should stick to one. Different techniques may confuse him in either sport when fighting.


Tell that to:

Somrack Khamsing, Samart Payakaroon, Khaosai Galaxy, Yodsanan 3K battery, Samrasak Muengsurin, Pongsaklek Wonjongkam, Veeraphol Sahaprom, Pone Kingpetch, Chartchai Chionoi and just about any Thai you've ever heard off in the boxing world.

All pro Muay Thai fighters before the switched to boxing where they all achieved a world title or olympic gold medal and there are many more to add to that list! There are westerners to such as Troy Dorsey etc
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:45 AM   #48
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He should keep training in everything, but when he gets 18, he should go MMA full time.

I prefer Cashflow's potential in boxing more

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Old 01-29-2013, 09:52 AM   #49
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There's a rumour he was KOd early on in his career by a spin kick to the chin.
Glass jaws exist in children.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:11 AM   #50
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Then he found cocaine, booze and ladies......
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:27 AM   #51
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Then he found cocaine, booze and ladies......
living la vida loca ...

he should stick to MMA. I think he will have more success there.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:35 AM   #52
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i know him personally... cool kid, father is raping his childhood though. he always seems more relaxed when his pops isnt at the gym

Of course this would be true. This will destroy the father/son bond, just like it did with the Mayweathers. I also agree with the earlier poster about too much muscle development at that age. He can learn the sport without working in it so strenuously. What's the hurry?
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:17 AM   #53
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Eastern Europe has produced no elite fighters besides the Klitschkos. Even they left as soon as they could.

The US has produced the best fighters of all time and still has more champions than any other country. US and Mexico rule boxing.

The kid is an amateur and boxing starts from the grassroots up, the US have been terrible in the amateurs in recent years and as a result there are no good American pros coming through. The US system produces fighters with more style than substance, it's more about looking good than being good. When a fighter does well in the amateurs he generally does well in the pros, i.e Andre Ward. The US is lagging behind and it all starts in the amateurs. I don't care about the entire history of boxing, the story right now is that US boxing is in poor condition. This kid isn't going to develop as a boxer in the US, he'd be better off following the MMA route.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:07 PM   #54
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The kid is an amateur and boxing starts from the grassroots up, the US have been terrible in the amateurs in recent years and as a result there are no good American pros coming through. The US system produces fighters with more style than substance, it's more about looking good than being good. When a fighter does well in the amateurs he generally does well in the pros, i.e Andre Ward. The US is lagging behind and it all starts in the amateurs. I don't care about the entire history of boxing, the story right now is that US boxing is in poor condition. This kid isn't going to develop as a boxer in the US, he'd be better off following the MMA route.
If the Eastern Euro system is so great than why do all the best slavic fighters like W. Klitschko and GGG abandon it as soon as they can and get American trainers.

Nobody cares about the amateurs.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:23 PM   #55
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If the Eastern Euro system is so great than why do all the best slavic fighters like W. Klitschko and GGG abandon it as soon as they can and get American trainers.

Nobody cares about the amateurs.
Because that's where the money is

If the US was winning anything then you'd change your tune.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:37 PM   #56
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Yawn.

Perhaps you never encountered a kid who excelled at an early age, only to be caught by his peers later on during his teen years and early twenties.

Never occurred to you, right? Of course not, because you apparently live in a world where every 13yo "phenom" blossoms into a global sports celebrity.

Douche.
I didn't say he'd be an animal later in life, I said right now, he's ranked the best in America and has won titles in different sports.
If the young lads in your gym are just as good as him, well then why haven't they accomplished the same things? Why aren't they winning various titles in various sports?

Let me again explain to you it is because AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME they aren't as good as him. What don't you understand? Is this really difficult? Are you actually going to argue that some random kids in your local gym are just as good as the #1 in the USA?
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:45 PM   #57
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a bunch of grown ass men who are supposed to be boxing fans hating on a little kid that hasn't even finished puberty yet. This kid is an amateur star too. May he become a successful pro and beat your then favorite fighter's ass in front of your very own eyes.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:48 PM   #58
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hundereds of people his age have talents that unfortunately go by the ways side, as some one pointed out wait till his late teens and then see if the dedication is still there.
time will tell
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:05 PM   #59
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Because that's where the money is

If the US was winning anything then you'd change your tune.
Brian Viloria
Nonito Donaire
Miguel Angel Garcia
Adrien Broner
Danny Garcia
Floyd Mayweather
Andre Ward
Bernard Hopkins etc etc


ALL came through the American system....seems America is still able to produce good boxers.

How many no.1 ranked fighters in their division has eastern europe produced in the past decade?
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:05 PM   #60
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a bunch of grown ass men who are supposed to be boxing fans hating on a little kid that hasn't even finished puberty yet. This kid is an amateur star too. May he become a successful pro and beat your then favorite fighter's ass in front of your very own eyes.
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