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Old 01-30-2013, 08:15 AM   #31
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sky dont want these type of shows it was the whole point of them going with hearn

does anyone know when does hearns deal run out how many into the 20 shows is he in??
I'd rather see those than ANY prizefighter crap though but Hearn and Sky pander to the casual fan
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:19 AM   #32
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Sky are right for a change, If Eddie wants it PPV then it should be separate from the 20 dates he has been given, sorry the 14 boxing dates he has been given.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:05 AM   #33
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Is eddie receiving a set fee for these 20 shows? I don't really know how all the tv stuff works. 20 dates seems like a lot to fill though. It seems really unfair if the fight can be made non ppv, people already pay for a sky package and its unfair to expect us to cough up even more.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:13 AM   #34
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Is eddie receiving a set fee for these 20 shows? I don't really know how all the tv stuff works. 20 dates seems like a lot to fill though. It seems really unfair if the fight can be made non ppv, people already pay for a sky package and its unfair to expect us to cough up even more.
This is what Eddie seems to be thinking, even with the Prizefighter shows.
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This is what Eddie seems to be thinking, even with the Prizefighter shows.
MAYBE maybe, if he was a new age promoter and cared about the sport he would put out to tender say 3/4 dates, allow other promoters to 'buy' spots on the card for their fighters and have a cross promotional show?

Maybe?

Maybe Rob and DFTaylor should discuss?
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:16 AM   #36
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Eddie gets Sky all to himself then struggles to fill the 14 dates, he has 365 days to choose from ffs.

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Old 01-30-2013, 09:26 AM   #37
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MAYBE maybe, if he was a new age promoter and cared about the sport he would put out to tender say 3/4 dates, allow other promoters to 'buy' spots on the card for their fighters and have a cross promotional show?

Maybe?

Maybe Rob and DFTaylor should discuss?


But yeah, if hes struggling to fill his contract then a few promotions going out to other companies would seem to suit everyone. Be interesting to see if Eddie sees in the same.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:29 AM   #38
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I think he is aware that he needs to add to the stable in order to put on 14 shows a year of a decent quality. Especially if Rees gets bashed up by Broner and retires, and as Froch only fights twice a year and one of them won't even count that is another conundrum he is facing.

It's all very well saying he should put the dates out to tender but that makes him look inept, he can't take on a 20 date contract then not be able to fill them and go cap in hand to Hatton or Maloney hoping to get them back on Sky!

Part of his problem will be that the others don't want to work with him in any case so even with the stable of fighters he has trying to get them fights is proving difficult as their nearest rivals are often signed to his nearest rivals and they either ask for silly money or just refuse to do it.

In regards to PPV, it's a personal view point, I don't mind paying out a couple of times a year for big fights as long as they're quality match ups and it's an exception to the rule. I wouldn't even pay PPV for BoxNation as I already pay a subscription to them exclusively for boxing whereas with Sky it is just a small part of the package. I fully understand why people have an issue with it but I don't see it as ripping off the fans, I just see it as providing a fight that wouldn't otherwise happen and giving certain fans an opportunity to purchase it.

Lets be honest, if a match up was made that we all wanted to see, say Marquez/Burns or something along those lines, would it be that much of a hard ship to order it for 15 and get 3 mates over to split the cost of it or bring the beers or whatever? It's not a lot of money to me and if it happens twice a year I won't be losing my rag over it!
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But yeah, if hes struggling to fill his contract then a few promotions going out to other companies would seem to suit everyone. Be interesting to see if Eddie sees in the same.


yes, 'interesting'.

Maybe throw offers around to stage foreign fighters on the cards, as a 'neutral' promoter?

Theres decent match ups on ESPN and they have no money.

Maybe Gaz, if hes in it because he loves the sport and its fighters.

Maybe.
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Putting them out to tender for spots on the card sounds inept, but not as inept as not having the cards at all?

Prizefighter? The geriatrics?

Prizefighter 'The teak tough Ghanians'

Shit, thats it!
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He always has his beloved Prizefighter to fill dates with, he knows that's what we like and want, I'm struggling to contain myself and the joy it would bring, to see this great tournament of skill and style on my TV for the millionth time this year.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:42 AM   #42
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This could all go away if he signed someone like David Price or Groves, someone they can stick on a bill 3/4 times a year as a head liner or main attraction. That's all it would really take, sign one biggish fighter and the dates are settled. I think he'd rather do that and offer a nice contract to a new fighter than work with rival promoters, although it seems to make sense, he is effectively weakening his own brand whilst strengthening the competitions. That's not good business in any industry.
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Prizefighter 'The teak tough Ghanians'
I'd watch that.

Got a bad feeling that Froch Vs Kessler II will bankrupt Hearn.
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I'd watch that.

Got a bad feeling that Froch Vs Kessler II will bankrupt Hearn.
Not likely with Matchrooms resources.
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Not likely with Matchrooms resources.
Not sure how much their willing to plunder into boxing, I was under the impression that the boxing side was Eddies self contained and self sustained baby.

I've got a feeling that this event will not make them any money though.
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