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Old 01-30-2013, 11:55 AM   #61
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Pretty sure whenever there were PPV cards before it came out of W*rrens dates. We certainly never got extra shows.
Ignoring the fact that that post is clearly guesswork on your part, still the situation would only be comparable if Warrun had an exclusive contract with Sky like Hearn does so that Sky couldn't source extra dates from other promoters.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:56 AM   #62
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If Eddie wants to get in touch with me, he can find me in Chatham's red light district, curb crawling.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:57 AM   #63
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The date and venue are always announced.

The point is: if they can't agree on a venue and a date then the fight will not happen.

They should have agreed all this before making the announcement. Including television.
1. The venue is not always announced.
2. TV has been agreed. The OP has made this up.
3. It would have leaked.

It's nice for them to have a choice of venues. Thats what happens when you actually pay the venue. That way you have World Champions fight in there home country.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:58 AM   #64
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Ignoring the fact that that post is clearly guesswork on your part, still the situation would only be comparable if Warrun had an exclusive contract with Sky like Hearn does so that Sky couldn't source extra dates from other promoters.
Its mot guess work. Did we get any extra shows from them? No.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:05 PM   #65
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Its mot guess work. Did we get any extra shows from them? No.
I'm honest enough to say I don't remember but STILL the situation isn't the same, Sky could go out and get extra dates from other promoters.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:07 PM   #66
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yes, 'interesting'.

Maybe throw offers around to stage foreign fighters on the cards, as a 'neutral' promoter?

Theres decent match ups on ESPN and they have no money.

Maybe Gaz, if hes in it because he loves the sport and its fighters.

Maybe.
I'm sure he'll do the decent thing. He's clearly struggling to fill his dates so why not open a couple of them up and help the careers of a few fighters get a bit of exposure?
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:08 PM   #67
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1. The venue is not always announced.
2. TV has been agreed. The OP has made this up.
3. It would have leaked.

It's nice for them to have a choice of venues. Thats what happens when you actually pay the venue. That way you have World Champions fight in there home country.
Which venues haven't been paid? Frank continues to use the same venues. His champions do fight at home, I assumed that was one of peoples issues with Frank.


Do you ever deal in actual facts? Your opinions are always based on speculation and rumours.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:09 PM   #68
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Much ado about nothing.Hearn has already put on 8 dates with another 6 lined up before the end of march that leaves 6 with 2 of those being prizefighters.Thats 4 dates to fill in 4 months and the Froch bill while i could understand sky don`t want to count as one of the date ,it could mean Hearns resources are more streched when he would like to put on a stacked undercard for the ppv, they will work it out i`m sure.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:12 PM   #69
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I'm honest enough to say I don't remember but STILL the situation isn't the same, Sky could go out and get extra dates from other promoters.
Hearn is willing to work with other promoters. Coldwell, Woods & Fearon. Has made offers to Maloney.

Still, this conversation is off the back of a post from Nafflad thy has no source. Its just as likley to be either scenario so its pointless to talk about it.
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Which venues haven't been paid? Frank continues to use the same venues. His champions do fight at home, I assumed that was one of peoples issues with Frank.


Do you ever deal in actual facts? Your opinions are always based on speculation and rumours.
You are really stupid!
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Or alternatively Eddie can find me hanging out in the girls changing rooms at Mid Kent Collage.

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Old 01-30-2013, 12:34 PM   #72
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Hearn is willing to work with other promoters. Coldwell, Woods & Fearon. Has made offers to Maloney.

Still, this conversation is off the back of a post from Nafflad thy has no source. Its just as likley to be either scenario so its pointless to talk about it.
Come on Rob, when has a lack of a source ever stopped people, including you, talking about this sort of stuff?
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:51 PM   #73
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And by the same token Eddie is more than welcome to contact us on these very forums.
Eddie Hearn is much loved on these forums
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:07 PM   #74
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Sky deserve a lot of the blame for giving all their dates to Eddie knowing he hasn't the biggest stable.

The only headliners Eddie's got are Froch, Brook, Bellew, Barker and Frampton. With Sky wanting to show at least 2 12 rounders the likes of McCloskey and Purdy end up in the co-feature bouts.

And it seems that good domestic matchups like Matthews/Crolla and Lindsay/Selby which would have headlined their own (smaller) cards in the past aren't good enough to go ahead on their own on Sky now.

What's the problem with Lindsay/Selby headling with someone like Willie Casey in the co-feature against a decent opponent and then Matchroom's prospects keeping busy whilst having Kiko/Frampton headline a separate card with McCloskey or Andy Lee in the co-feature. Then you've got two cards instead of the 1 and they'd still both be decent if the right opponents are found for the likes of Casey and Lee.

Sky and/or Matchroom seem to insist on guys that have got a chance of world level success headlining their cards. The problem is British boxing doesn't have that many fighters on that level. You can't expect everyone to go on and do something at world level yet Sky don't seem content with guys being 'only' British or European champions.
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:10 PM   #75
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Great post Ishy. Totally agree.

Nothing wrong with 2 or 3 interesting domestic/ Euro fights on a TV card if the stables "big hitters" are busy.
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